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Posted by: nonni Nov 1 2004, 07:58 AM

My mom is Greek. My Dad is Greek, too, but he grew up in a Jewish neighborhood in Chicago in the fifties and sixties and went to Hebrew school because all his friends were. My mother is fluent in Greek and my fahter knows hebrew.

When I was beginning my deconversion process, once mom and I were watching a televangelist, and he kept referring to "The Greek meaning" of such and such word. My mother was gawking, "That's bullshit!" 9 times out of 10, when the preacher talked about a Greek meaning, it wasn't a REAL Greek meaning. Of course, most people don't know Greek, so he could just say whatever he wanted, and sound smart.

After that incident, every time I heard some preacher talk about "The Greek" or "The Hebrew", I would make a note of it and ask mom or dad, respectively. Most of the time it was bullshit.

Posted by: Reach Nov 1 2004, 08:05 AM

QUOTE (nonni @ Nov 1 2004, 07:58 AM)

...9 times out of 10, when the preacher talked about a Greek meaning, it wasn't a REAL Greek meaning. Of course, most people don't know Greek, so he could just say whatever he wanted, and sound smart.

After that incident, every time I heard some preacher talk about "The Greek" or "The Hebrew", I would make a note of it and ask mom or dad, respectively. Most of the time it was bullshit.

No kidding!

I once posted this...

QUOTE (Reach @ May 28 2004, 11:56 AM)

QUOTE (chefranden @ May 28 2004, 01:38 PM)

And you can't honestly think that Strong's bias toward KJV makes it the best lexicon, or even a real lexicon.

Regarding "real lexicons" and The Original Greek™...how would we possibly make a selection between the following?

Which Greek would you like? Can you tell which one is The Original Greek™?

Aleph1
Aleph2
Aleph3
B1
B2
B3
C
L
W
Textus Receptus
Westcott and Hort
Scrivener's
Alfred
Griesbach
Elzevir
Erasmus
Tischendorf
Lachman
Souter
von Soden
Hodge-Farstad
Nestle's-Aland, Editions 1 through 26 (or more, I quit checking) ...which edition is the correct one? Which printing of the 26th Edition?
UBS-Aland
Black
Metzger
Wikgren, Editions 1 through 4, which edition?
Greek-English Diglot for the Use of Translators

There might be more than this but I got tired of keeping a list. Anyone have a clue which source is reliable? Oh, never mind. :barf:

Posted by: ficino Nov 1 2004, 11:36 AM

Yeia sou, re Nonni! Pes mou an milas ellinika!

Posted by: LloydDobler Nov 1 2004, 11:40 AM

QUOTE (nonni @ Nov 1 2004, 07:58 AM)

when the preacher talked ... it wasn't ... REAL...

...every time I heard some preacher talk...it was bullshit.

Here Nonni I edited out a bunch of words in your post to cut to the real chase. hehehe.

Why the original greek version of bullshit is any more credible than a bad english translation of bullshit is beyond me.

But since people are finding out that the whole religion is bullshit, it's become a fad among christians to make a scapegoat out of the translators, to keep people from rejecting it more.

Posted by: nonni Nov 1 2004, 11:55 AM

QUOTE (ficino @ Nov 1 2004, 11:36 AM)

Yeia sou, re Nonni! Pes mou an milas ellinika!

Ya-sou~!

Posted by: luck mermaid Nov 1 2004, 06:41 PM

Yas Sou! emai oxi elenika!....sto aerothromio!!!..... vlepis?

Posted by: ficino Nov 1 2004, 07:53 PM

Yeia sou, Luck Mermaid! Esu den eisai ellenida ma milas ellinika? Den katalavaino.

It would be cool to have a little Greek section of this wonderful website if we had the fonts. Don't know if that's possible. And don't want to drive everyone else crazy! Anyway, Luck Mermaid, you're at the airport? I don't quite get it. Best anyway, an d down with those vromikous pappades! (those dirty priests!)

Posted by: luck mermaid Nov 2 2004, 04:32 AM

When I said 'i'm not greek' I was implying - I don't SPEAK greek and then threw out random words lol to prove it.

Posted by: spidermonkey Nov 2 2004, 02:39 PM

I remember my old cult leader doing that. My study buybull also had notes that pointed out the original Greek / Hebrew. I used to think it made xtianity look well-researched.

Little did I know it was another fundie way to spout off a bunch of shit.

Remember the old saying...."if you can't dazzle 'em with brilliance, baffle 'em with bullshit"

that is EXACTLY what fundies do.

Posted by: Nihil Nov 2 2004, 04:03 PM

When I saw the title, I thought this thread would be about Jimmy the Greek.

Posted by: Anomalie Nov 3 2004, 12:41 AM

When someone translates into the greek/hebrew it ususally means "I cant find a version of the bible that says what I want it to say so I will try to manipulate the original to say what I want it to. Since none of you understand greek I can get away with it".