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Posted by: Reach Mar 5 2004, 11:41 PM
Beyond body types, shapes and sizes, what makes a woman or a man very sexy? What's the secret? What's that one thing that really catches your interest? What is appealing?

I'll name a couple to start us off:

Total confidence is incredibly appealing. It's almost magical. The sexiest people I know are completely comfortable with who they are and so they exude confidence and make you feel wonderful in their presence.

I don't think you can overestimate the possible attraction when someone you like genuinely likes you. Smiling with a twinkle in the eye can start the whole thing off.

What do you think?

Thanks to Fweethawt for the topic suggestion.

Posted by: ericf Mar 5 2004, 11:52 PM
Personally,

I have to say that a person who is comfortable with their body, really at home in their skin, is exceptionally sexy. A person who is confident. And a little on the physical side, I like breasts that aren't huge! Sorry to ruin the cosmetic enhancement binge everyone is on. But Bs Cs are probably my preference. I don't have too much experience with exactly what size represents what... but everytime I see D or larger I get distracted wondering how the hell she puts up with them. I would rather have an extra 10 pounds on a person than have them be 10 pounds too thin. Hmm, long hair is sexy. Uhm, a nice smile some eye contact... interest in me.

I don't know... lots of stuff is sexy. Some people are just sexy in a different way then others. And sometimes something is sexy for one person but you know it would not be sexy for another.

Posted by: biggles7268 Mar 5 2004, 11:55 PM
Attitude, attitude, attitude, and pretty eyes. If your a snob or only interested in what "you" can get from me, I'm not interested. If your just basically a nice pleasant person to be around then not much else really matters.

Body type I like a few extra pounds, not into the waif thing at all, of course personality will still win out so you skinny girls have a chance too if your nice.

Posted by: Sanguine Mar 6 2004, 04:35 AM
In order of importance

Intelligence
Confidence
Looks

* Eyes
* Hair
* Legs
* Breasts (D's are probably too much, but it varies alot, proportion is the most important thing i guess.)


You may think it strange that I list intelligence first, cause its not something you can immediately notice about a person, but I'm assuming extended contact, cause really, what good is a sexy stranger?


Posted by: biggles7268 Mar 6 2004, 04:44 AM
QUOTE
cause really, what good is a sexy stranger?


eye candy that's about it though

Posted by: ericf Mar 6 2004, 07:55 AM
Let me tell you one thing that isn't sexy. At least not to me.

Fakeness... be it personality or physical. Sorry... I am not a fan of implants... you were born with A cups -- love them don't mutilate them. I would rather be with a girl with A cups who loved herself then I would with C cups that were implants. I know that implants don't always mean the person didn't love their body but it feels that way to me. Tons of makeup... sorry no way... tiny little bit of makeup -- maybe... no makeup because you love your natural face... WAY TURN ON. 8" heels... turn off... 1) I am short so making yourself taller isn't going to help and 2) that is so bad for your body. Colored contacts... are you playing a part in a movie? And so on...

Basically put: There are some guys that want to date Barbie... I am not one of them. If I wanted to date painted plastic, I would buy myself a women at the local adult bookshop.

And the same goes with personality... don't put on some act that you think I want to see. I want to see the real person.

Anyway... I felt this thread could use a little more rant.

Posted by: Reach Mar 6 2004, 09:50 AM
QUOTE (ericf @ Mar 6 2004, 02:52 AM)
really at home in their skin, is exceptionally sexy.

Great phrasing! If the attraction is mutual, one who is really at home in her/his skin will make you feel really at home in yours.

Really at home in the mind too. I like to see a wonderful combination of intelligence and strength but at the same time I find a touch of vulnerability is an incredibly powerful lure, as well as transparency. That honest and open look that says, "I'll let you in to my mind," invites an approach.

Sexy people touch each other some when they are speaking with those they like; the soft, light occasional touch of an arm during conversation encourages a friendship and is comforting. To me, hanging on someone is a complete turn-off, revealing a high degree of insecurity.

Posted by: GodzillaBless Mar 6 2004, 10:00 AM
I like a man who can think and do things for himself and not be so clingy and needy.

Posted by: Starflier Mar 6 2004, 10:34 AM
Hmmm, gotta think on this a bit here....................

Okay, but not necessarily in this order:

1. Interest in me & vice versa.
2. Authenticity (genuine, sincere, honest, real)
3. Sense of humor, witty (not raunchy or crude)
4. Self confidence (self-esteem, comfortable)
5. Intelligent (educated, conversational)
6. Physically fit (healthy, vital, clean, neat, well groomed)
7. Handsome (to me) (see #6)
8. Friendly (approachable, vulnerable)
9. Charming (sensitive, emotionally expressive, gesturing,
affectionate)
10. Chivalrous (gentlemanly, mannerly)
11. A touch of mystery (provokes further interest)

Posted by: Starflier Mar 6 2004, 10:36 AM
QUOTE (GodzillaBless @ Mar 6 2004, 10:00 AM)
I like a man who can think and do things for himself and not be so clingy and needy.

Oh that too...self-actuating, authentic, independent.

Posted by: Reach Mar 6 2004, 10:47 AM
Cleanliness!

This is not to negate the turn on of the hot and sweaty man who returns home from a hard day's work, but then again, that man might be yours already. After a shower, he could make great company for a Hard Day's Night!

If you wear fragrance, don't wear too much!


Posted by: Lanakila Mar 6 2004, 11:00 AM
QUOTE
1. Interest in me & vice versa.
2. Authenticity (genuine, sincere, honest, real)
3. Sense of humor, witty (not raunchy or crude)
4. Self confidence (self-esteem, comfortable)
5. Intelligent (educated, conversational)
6. Physically fit (healthy, vital, clean, neat, well groomed)
7. Handsome (to me) (see #6)
8. Friendly (approachable, vulnerable)
9. Charming (sensitive, emotionally expressive, gesturing,
affectionate)
10. Chivalrous (gentlemanly, mannerly)
11. A touch of mystery (provokes further interest)


I like your list. But sexy is hard to describe. I find some people sexy that have no interest in me, though like the sexy hollywood men in that other thread.

Posted by: Lokmer Mar 6 2004, 11:11 AM
Comfortable in their own skin - definately. Someone who's honest with themselves.

This next one's important but most people can't pick up on it:
Someone who's arousable. I don't mean a nymphomaniac, but there are some people who by their manner and their presence are positively dripping with sexual energy. The sort of person who responds to being moved, who gets emotionally aroused at things - who is plugged in to life rather than just along for the ride (i.e. affected and effected by the day-to-day, moment by moment experience). Most often, people like this are more interesting anyway, but when this emotional arousability connects to their body, I just go nuts Between being able to smell pheremones and arousal scents and read body language very well, being around a woman like that just puts me in heaven.

-Lokmer

Posted by: Reach Mar 6 2004, 11:31 AM
QUOTE (Lokmer @ Mar 6 2004, 02:11 PM)

This next one's important but most people can't pick up on it:
Someone who's arousable. I don't mean a nymphomaniac, but there are some people who by their manner and their presence are positively dripping with sexual energy. The sort of person who responds to being moved, who gets emotionally aroused at things - who is plugged in to life rather than just along for the ride (i.e. affected and effected by the day-to-day, moment by moment experience). Most often, people like this are more interesting anyway, but when this emotional arousability connects to their body, I just go nuts Between being able to smell pheremones and arousal scents and read body language very well, being around a woman like that just puts me in heaven.

-Lokmer

Spot on Lokmer, and I think that's why we can be heterosexual and yet still find ourselves aroused somewhat, on occasion, by our own gender. What's your take on that?

Pheremones? Yeah! Make sure your fragrance has them. (I'm careful, however, not to wear the dangerous fragrances to certain places and around certain people, the thought being if I'm not available, I don't need to advertise.)

==============

Now, this one is strictly a matter of preference, a little off-topic, but is worthy of mention and... to each his own. This one always turns my head and makes me look. Who said we're not allowed to have favorites? I certainly do.

I love a man in uniform. Or out of uniform.

Go Navy!
;-)

Posted by: bdpuffin Mar 6 2004, 12:49 PM
Definitely long hair...

and transparency - the women I fell for the hardest and remember the most were the ones who were who they were, were genuine, I didn't have to climb walls, break down barriers, and do a lot of guessing to see who they were and what they were about - it was all there up front. Natural.

bdp

Posted by: toecutter Mar 6 2004, 12:58 PM
I like girls who don't wear makeup, or wear very little. they usually have long, strait hair, and long, simple dresses, they are politically active, and listen to the doors with me. wait a second, that's just my fantasy of living in the late 60's. I'll take natural girls anyday, though. as long as she has a pretty face and is in good shape (healthy), i'm all for it. it's really more an emotional thing for me.

Posted by: Starflier Mar 6 2004, 12:58 PM
QUOTE (reach @ Mar 6 2004, 11:31 AM)
I love a man in uniform. Or out of uniform.

Go Navy!
;-)

Omygosh yes!! My first love was a sailor. Anchors aweigh!!!

Posted by: Starflier Mar 6 2004, 01:06 PM
QUOTE (bdpuffin @ Mar 6 2004, 12:49 PM)
Natural.


Naturalness, exactly. Authenticity again or genuineness, exhuding self-confidence. Almost or actually charismatic. Just plan real, honest, open, up front & directly so.

Posted by: Starflier Mar 6 2004, 01:13 PM
QUOTE (toecutter @ Mar 6 2004, 12:58 PM)
I like girls who don't wear makeup, or wear very little. they usually have long, strait hair, and long, simple dresses, they are politically active, and listen to the doors with me. wait a second, that's just my fantasy of living in the late 60's. I'll take natural girls anyday, though. as long as she has a pretty face and is in good shape (healthy), i'm all for it. it's really more an emotional thing for me.

I don't like make up on men either. Not even toupes or comb-overs. If a guy is going bald, I like the complete buzz cut or shave the head entirely bald. Just be real & natural about it. I mean what's he going to do in private or bed anyway? It all comes off sooner or later. I believe in "What you see is what you get".

Posted by: Reach Mar 6 2004, 01:42 PM
QUOTE (Starflier @ Mar 6 2004, 03:58 PM)
QUOTE (reach @ Mar 6 2004, 11:31 AM)
I love a man in uniform. Or out of uniform.

Go Navy!
;-)

Omygosh yes!! My first love was a sailor. Anchors aweigh!!!

Me too!!! There's nothing quite like meeting your sailor at the dock after a deployment and what you wear AND choose not to wear in anticipation of him, all of him. And what follows...

Anchor in!!!

Posted by: biggles7268 Mar 6 2004, 02:12 PM
QUOTE (Starflier @ Mar 6 2004, 12:58 PM)
QUOTE (reach @ Mar 6 2004, 11:31 AM)
I love a man in uniform. Or out of uniform.

Go Navy!
;-)

Omygosh yes!! My first love was a sailor. Anchors aweigh!!!

That goes for women in uniform too


and those Navy uniforms have nothing on us Marines

Posted by: Lanakila Mar 6 2004, 02:27 PM
QUOTE (biggles7268 @ Mar 6 2004, 05:12 PM)
QUOTE (Starflier @ Mar 6 2004, 12:58 PM)
QUOTE (reach @ Mar 6 2004, 11:31 AM)
I love a man in uniform. Or out of uniform.

Go Navy!
;-)

Omygosh yes!! My first love was a sailor. Anchors aweigh!!!

That goes for women in uniform too


and those Navy uniforms have nothing on us Marines

I would have to agree on the Marine Uniform Biggles. Loving a man in uniform has it's negatives though. They may look good, but those Navy guys have a women in every port, and all that jazz.

Having been married to and divorcing a soldier right now, I will say he does look hot in his dress uniform, but those BDU's do nothing for anyone. The best he ever looked was the day he came home from the war though(Desert BDU's). He was alive. The war was the death of our marriage, but I didn't know it yet, and I was just so happy to see him home, alive.

Posted by: jacksonprice Mar 6 2004, 04:02 PM
eyes, eyes, eyes are the absolute first thing i look for, which is a lie, because i am a man and I am going to notice a woman who has a stellar body. Lets face it physical attraction is part of a relationship. But primal instincts aside, the eyes...i like a woman who piereces my soul with her eyes...this leads to intelligence, because a woman who has eyes like that definetly knows whats going on. The opposite of them being the girls who you talk to and you know they have no concept of reality because their eyes are empty and lacklustre.




Your burning effigy,
Jackson Price

Posted by: michelle Mar 6 2004, 06:52 PM
I like cockiness & aggorance when its just for fun. Being sensitive is way up there, dressing like Eminem helps. Uniforms defineatly do not do it for me. How is a guy expressing himself in a uniform? You have to be able to dance or at least be willing to try. Overall its their character and their mind. And being alive. No emotion is out and being overly emotional, such as Christianity is not a turn on.
I like the gym clothes my boyfreind wears for racquetball.
I dont care for hard hats & oranges vests anymore.

Posted by: toecutter Mar 6 2004, 07:31 PM
I'm pretty emotional and sensitive, maybe that's why I never get any. also, i'm really scrawny. maybe I come off as too effeminate? i'm not going to change who I am, but i thought girls dug sensitve guys.

Posted by: Reach Mar 6 2004, 09:27 PM
I found this quote which triggered another thought:

"NEVER ask for my opinion unless you really, really want it. Don't pretend like you're interested in my opinion and then act like your opinion was better all along." ~Matthew

One thing that is REALLY attractive is when someone asks you questions, wants to hear the answers, truly listens and responds. Most people seem so caught up in themselves they forget to ask you about you; when they do get around to it, it seems like an afterthought. Genuine interest can't be faked and listening to someone leaves a powerful impression.

===========================================================================
Off-Topic---> Doug, just to let you know that there will be a payback, at some point, for this:

QUOTE
QUOTE
<blushing> personal message

That means yes. Go for it JJ!


Posted by: Doug2 Mar 6 2004, 10:57 PM
QUOTE
Doug, just to let you know that there will be a payback, at some point, for this:

HAHAHA.....wait....your joking right? Oh crap.

Posted by: Starflier Mar 6 2004, 11:10 PM
QUOTE (reach @ Mar 6 2004, 09:27 PM)
One thing that is REALLY attractive is when someone asks you questions, wants to hear the answers, truly listens and responds.

Oh this is a really important factor. A good listener, which was
on my list. Such a person, though, is a genuniely caring, attentive person in most other ways too, I think.

Posted by: formerfundie Mar 6 2004, 11:57 PM
I'm a sucker for the nonconformist/go against the flow/maverick types. I think they are the ones that initiate change and get the most done. I didn't even realize this until a few months ago, and then, voila, it dawned on me...

He has to have a quick wit. I need to laugh - A LOT!

And gentleness - in both manner and speech - and yes, chivalry is a real turn on. No - it is NOT dead.

Oh, and he's got to know how to talk sexy - he's got to know how to say, "oooooooh" with just the right roll of the tongue and vocal inflection - between a roar and a purrrrrr

Physical features: Dark hair - preferably with a little gray in the mix (love salt and pepper hair) - beards, but not too full, mustache is okay if it works and is well kept - and he's got to be a bit meaty - not like way too meaty - but just right meaty, and prefer a man to be taller, don't know why, just do.

NO MORE UNIFORMS FOR ME!!! I was married to a military clean-cut/clean shaven/ fit man for 23 years (divorce pending but hopefully finalized soon, yeah!) I know, that dates me, damn! When I met him though, he was soooooo different. The Army has a way of changing a man. Oh well. Things and people change.

Posted by: Lokmer Mar 7 2004, 12:50 AM
QUOTE (Reach said...)


Spot on Lokmer, and I think that's why [pheremones] we can be heterosexual and yet still find ourselves aroused somewhat, on occasion, by our own gender. What's your take on that?


I think that's definately part of it
I also think that sex is tied so deep into our biology, neurology, and basic nature that this sort of thing is inevitable. Sex is basic to the bonding drive - friendships, fondnesses, acquaintainces, any sort of deep bond is fascilitated by our sexuality. When that intersects with a person who is attractive physically of pheremonally, or simply by attitude, that bond can become easily sexualized. And of course, there's nothing wrong with that (though it can get complicated when people get swept away against their better judgement!). It certainly does make the whole process of relationship more complicated, interesting, and delightful than most people prefer to acknowledge.

More of the wonderous mysteries of humanity! Gotta love it
-Lokmer

Posted by: Reach Mar 7 2004, 01:29 AM
QUOTE (Lokmer @ Mar 7 2004, 03:50 AM)
More of the wonderous mysteries of humanity! Gotta love it
-Lokmer

Absolutely! I sure learned some lessons about pheremones, bonding and the spiritual dynamics. Normally, I'm very careful about what perfume I wear around different people and in different settings, but sometimes, I simply want to wear my favorite fragrance. It happens to be the dangerous one. A couple years back when I used to go to church, it so happened that my pastor requested me to join him in prayer with some other female visitor. Standing close together, in a small little prayer group, my skin warmed up and all of the sudden that fragrance just seemed to come out of nowhere. After this happened a few times I finally read some signals and got the message. It actually served to alter the relationship with my pastor. If I am ever in a church again, I plan to never wear that perfume there.

Wonderfully, delightfully complex! Yeah, gotta love it. The metaphysical is fascinating.
-reach

Posted by: Lokmer Mar 7 2004, 01:33 AM
If/when you're out this way - bring that perfume! I'd love to see what it smells like (and I promise that I'm very well behaved - just ask sexkitten!).
-Lokmer

Posted by: Lanakila Mar 7 2004, 08:08 AM
I am wondering what this sexy frangrance is as well. I wear Este Lauder Beautiful, because I like it, but I am not sure that its that sexy.

Posted by: lostandconfused Mar 7 2004, 12:33 PM
I can't describe it in words, but I know it when I see it.

Posted by: michelle Mar 7 2004, 02:07 PM
Im a perfume fanatic. Gucci, Red Door, Chloe and Obsession by Calvin Klein. A man who wears cologne? Wooh thats sexy!
Bijan for men is really hot.

Posted by: Starflier Mar 7 2004, 08:52 PM
The only scent I ever wear is Lady Rain, an essential oil. I'm allergic to perfumes. If a guy I dated wore any & got too close, I'd probably be sneezing & have watery eyes so much I' have to go home....without him. I have a funny recent story about this very thing in fact, but that would be too much information for here.

Posted by: biggles7268 Mar 8 2004, 04:27 AM
i've never worn cologne except for one girl who insisted. I don't mind the smell, I just don't like wearing it. My ex liked the way I smelled without it so apparently I don't stink to bad

Posted by: ericf Mar 8 2004, 04:42 AM
I am not big on scents myself. Not that I mind a woman who wears some but I don't really like smelling like something else. I wear unscented deoderant, no cologne, and try to avoid strong smelling shampoos. The few times you will find me scented is usually because I had inscense burning near me and retained some of that smell.

I don't know why this is. I have gotten bottle of cologne before and tried to wear them but just didn't like it. Although, if I had a woman who was crazy about a scent I would wear it on special occasions for her.

Posted by: brick Mar 8 2004, 01:17 PM
Hmmm....

She must be confidant and caring, and intelligence goes a long way with me. Physically, I dig long hair on an athletic frame, muscle women turn me to jelly, lol, especially brunettes with a touch of the exotic.

Sense of humour is crucial, since I spend a lot of my time looking for the humour in things.

I find myself attracted to women of strong character. Given the choice between a she-cop and a social worker, I gravitate towards the cop in a millisecond. I guess I like a little fight in my ladies.


Posted by: TalkingDonkey Mar 9 2004, 10:29 AM
I'm easy.

Symmetrical Features + Proportionate Body = Physical Attraction

Intelligence + Confidence + Independence = Relationship Material

I've actually lucked out pretty nicely. My current girlfriend has all of the above, although I do harp on her about smoking now that I've quit, but that's the only thing I find unattractive about her right now.

Posted by: Starflier Mar 9 2004, 10:31 PM
QUOTE (brick @ Mar 8 2004, 01:17 PM)
Hmmm....

She must be confidant and caring, and intelligence goes a long way with me. Physically, I dig long hair on an athletic frame, muscle women turn me to jelly, lol, especially brunettes with a touch of the exotic.

Sense of humour is crucial, since I spend a lot of my time looking for the humour in things.

I find myself attracted to women of strong character. Given the choice between a she-cop and a social worker, I gravitate towards the cop in a millisecond. I guess I like a little fight in my ladies.


You just described my older daughter to a T. She's all that, gorgeous, feisty, works out daily & is studying to be a personal trainer. Unfortunatly she's married to a similarly inclined hunk.

Posted by: brick Mar 10 2004, 07:54 AM
QUOTE (Starflier @ Mar 9 2004, 10:31 PM)
You just described my older daughter to a T. She's all that, gorgeous, feisty, works out daily & is studying to be a personal trainer. Unfortunatly she's married to a similarly inclined hunk.

Awesome! Glad to hear they exist and aren't just a figment of my (lusty) imagination. I'm getting married in september anyway...

Posted by: Starflier Mar 10 2004, 12:24 PM
QUOTE (brick @ Mar 10 2004, 07:54 AM)
Awesome! Glad to hear they exist and aren't just a figment of my (lusty) imagination. I'm getting married in september anyway...

Congratulations!!! I hope she's all you've described your ideal woman to be.

Posted by: formerfundie Mar 10 2004, 09:13 PM
QUOTE (Starflier @ Mar 10 2004, 12:24 PM)
QUOTE (brick @ Mar 10 2004, 07:54 AM)
Awesome! Glad to hear they exist and aren't just a figment of my (lusty) imagination. I'm getting married in september anyway...

Congratulations!!! I hope she's all you've described your ideal woman to be.

DITTO ON THE CONGRATS BRICK! WHOOO HOOOO!

Posted by: mandylibra1979 Mar 10 2004, 09:15 PM
here's my CONGRATS also, Brick! marriage is a wonderful thing . . .

Posted by: brick Mar 16 2004, 08:00 AM
QUOTE (Starflier @ Mar 10 2004, 12:24 PM)
Congratulations!!! I hope she's all you've described your ideal woman to be.

Actually she isn't much like my ideal woman, but love is a funny thing

It works, thats the important part.

Thanks for all the congrats! Much appreciated!!!


Posted by: woodsmoke Mar 16 2004, 08:23 PM
Oy, this is a somewhat painful topic to read at the moment. It's kind of therapeutic, as well--sort of a pleasure/pain deal.

Like Puffin mentioned, the ones I fell hardest for were the girls who were real and had no fear of being themselves.

Oy, this dredges up rather uncomfortable memories of three girls in particular.

One was a mainline Christian girl, and one of the greatest and purest souls I've ever had the privilige of knowing. We got to know each other over the summer between my sophomore and junior year, and she was the first girl I truly fell in love with. Her Dad being a doctor, she lived on a small ranch in a nearby outlying "town." There was absolutely nothing fake about her. She was totally honest and open in everything she did and had no reason to hide anything about herself. I believe this played a major part in my feelings for her.

Much as I cared for her, though, I just couldn't overcome my natural insecurities and lack of confidence. I loved her more than anything and would have given anything to be with her, but I could never bring myself to tell or show her this in any way. After school started we started to grow apart and eventually became barely more than friendly acquaintances. I don't think she ever realized how much I cared for her, and to this day probably hasn't given me a serious second thought.

The other two, ironically, were both Mormon. One was a freshman girl on the cheerleader squad. She was actually an old girlfriend of my then best friend. She as well was open and honest about herself, and even though she'd had a shitty past, she didn't carry the baggage with her and let it get her down like so many other people I know do. We never really got into any deep philosophical discussions, but she was always up-front and candid in her honestly with me. At least, she was up until the incident which drove us apart, but I still question wether I've heard the full and true story on that, so I continue to give her the benefit of the doubt.

We hooked up toward the end of my junior year, but a series of unfortunate and deliberately engineered problems led to it ending a mere four days after it began. Seems like everyone was involved with it in some way, and I'm unsure as to wether I'll ever be able to fully trust those people again. On that fourth day she told me she wasn't ready for a relationship, and I had to let her go. I couldn't have stopped her anyway, and I cared too much about her to disagree and possibly hurt her.

I've since realized the folly in this. It may have been noble of me to try to spare her from the potential pain involved in that ordeal, but in the process I effectually doubled the emotional agony I went through. Thinking that I was totally alright with her decision and having no idea of the anguish I was going through, she went on with her life in perfect contentment. Watching this only twisted the knife deeper into my gut. I don't want to make that mistake again. It may not be easy, and it may not always be "nice;" but I've got to say what I honestly feel and get it out in the open. Otherwise, it'll just keep churning inside me, gnashing its teeth and beating the walls in frustration at being denied release until it finally turns destructive or violent.

The third girl is a rather long story.

My sophomore year in high school was the closest thing I got to a period of fundamentalism. I was as devout as I could be to the church during that year. I fervently read the book of Mormon, was among the top students in my seminary class, prayed every night, always collected fast offerings, volunteered for any assignment I could get, bore my testimony in church almost on a regular basis, actually enjoyed going to church, etc. I memorized every "master scripture" in the Book of Mormon; whenever we played games in our seminary class I was always being claimed by one team or another because they knew I had memorized these verses and that I would greatly increase their chance of winning.

This wasn't all due to my feelings, though. I had the greatest seminary teacher I've ever had that year; and I still respect him as a truly wonderful man. My class as well--at least those who really wanted to be there--was also full of wonderful students who enriched my experiences that year more than words could possibly describe.

I became good buddies with the seminary teacher's son who was in that class with me as well as a few other geek-types who I got along with. There were also a few rather attractive girls in the class, though in my foolishness I only noticed one--Mickell--who of course was the one with whom I would never acheive anything more than a casual friendship. She was a wonderful girl, to be sure; but 'tis another whom I remember with such fond longing now. Her name is Natalie.

As the year went by I had a lot of fun in that class and came to value some of my 'mates as great friends. Throughout the year I teased and flirted with Mickell for everything I was worth, but I could just never gain any ground with her. During all this time, I was totally oblivious to what now seems to have been obvious efforts on Natalie's part to catch my attention. Whenever I would start flirting with the Mickell, Natalie would join in and flirt right back with me, but I was just too damn thick-headed to notice. She was very attractive, and to say I would have been lucky to be with her would be a tremendous understatement; but like all classic fools I had put on the blinders and centered in on the one I couldn't have; and to hell with anyone who got caught in the crossfire.

Toward the end of the school year, the straps on these blinders finally started to come loose and I began to notice what had been directly in front of my face plain for me to see all along. I started flirting with Natalie more and tried to make up for what I'd been missing all these months. She's a girl I will never forget. Everything about her was entirely genuine and original. She was who she seemed to be, and no one who really got to know her could think any negative thoughts of her. When I think about it, Aunt Reach reminds me a great deal of Natalie. She didn't care what a person thought or how they were dressed, she gave them all equal opportunity and affection, and she befriended everyone she could. Her popularity was earned, and it wasn't based on what she wore or the music she listened to; it was based on who she was.

Not more than a week thereafter, she came to school one day with the news that her family was moving to Salt Lake City.

I was crushed. Many times in the days before she moved, I went home and dissolved into tears, crying so much it hurt, then continuing to cry until I was too exhausted to do anything but sleep. Once I was asleep, I would dream about her, constantly seeing her face, playing out scenarios of what could have been. Often I couldn't even keep myself composed in school, and I would have to leave or sluff a class and go somewhere private so I could let out the grief. The day she left, I barely managed a semi-presentable goodbye before I had to retreat into seclusion to again release the grief. Even now, despite that it's been nearly two years, I can still feel the tears welling up in my eyes as I think of her.

Damn this depression. If there is a God who created this shit for us to have to go through, I hope it's been experiencing the most acute case of depression possible since day one of existence, and I hope it continues for as long as that sadistic bastard remains in existence.

Posted by: Reach Mar 16 2004, 08:39 PM
Awww... Li'l Woody, sometimes we let a good one slip away...

Could have, should have, would have... torturous words to not make room for, for very long. Let them ride in and back out with the next tide.

Drown your pillow in tears tonight, if you need to; tomorrow is a new day and it will have another high tide in it and there's just no telling what the ocean might wash upon the beach of your life.

Here's to new mornings, new tides and sweet dreams...

Auntie Reach

Posted by: Matthew Mar 16 2004, 08:49 PM
QUOTE
As the year went by I had a lot of fun in that class and came to value some of my 'mates as great friends. Throughout the year I teased and flirted with Mickell for everything I was worth, but I could just never gain any ground with her. During all this time, I was totally oblivious to what now seems to have been obvious efforts on Natalie's part to catch my attention. Whenever I would start flirting with the Mickell, Natalie would join in and flirt right back with me, but I was just too damn thick-headed to notice. She was very attractive, and to say I would have been lucky to be with her would be a tremendous understatement; but like all classic fools I had put on the blinders and centered in on the one I couldn't have; and to hell with anyone who got caught in the crossfire.


Reminds me of one of the biggest missed opportunities of my life! When I was in the 8th grade I started chasing this cheerleader named Allison. She wasn't all that pretty and she never acknowledged my existence except to say "hello" back when I greeted her. I realize that she was never my friend to begin with. I once asked her to a dance and she agreed to dance with me, stood me up, and then when I asked her about it the next day she came up with this lame-ass excuse that she had to go the hospital that night and get something surgically removed!

Little did I know- there was another girl in the middle school named Jeanine. Jeanine was a pretty girl, very popular, and friendly. She dropped these hints that she had a thing for me. One day, during the lunch break, she asked to have her picture taken with me and shortly after, as the year was coming to and end, she bought me a yearbook and wrote a message in it telling me that she would always remember me in her heart and that she would miss my "cute smile"!

It didn't dawn on me until almost three years later of what a missed opportunity I had! I don't know if she ever forgot about me, but I will always remember Jeanine! So I understand about Natalie! To this day I curse myself for being so dense and blind! What the hell was I thinking? Sometimes I would muse that if hadn't wasted this missed opportunity perhaps I wouldn't loathe Christianity all that much!

The weird thing is, now that I am aware that an opportunity can arise, it seems that they have stopped. All the opportunities came when I was too damn dumb to know they were in front of me!

Matthew


Posted by: Starflier Mar 17 2004, 02:43 AM
QUOTE (Matthew @ Mar 16 2004, 08:49 PM)
QUOTE
She was very attractive, and to say I would have been lucky to be with her would be a tremendous understatement; but like all classic fools I had put on the blinders and centered in on the one I couldn't have; and to hell with anyone who got caught in the crossfire.


Little did I know- there was another girl in the middle school named Jeanine. Jeanine was a pretty girl, very popular, and friendly. She dropped these hints that she had a thing for me. One day, during the lunch break, she asked to have her picture taken with me and shortly after, as the year was coming to and end, she bought me a yearbook and wrote a message in it telling me that she would always remember me in her heart and that she would miss my "cute smile"!

It didn't dawn on me until almost three years later of what a missed opportunity I had! I don't know if she ever forgot about me, but I will always remember Jeanine! So I understand about Natalie! To this day I curse myself for being so dense and blind! What the hell was I thinking? Sometimes I would muse that if hadn't wasted this missed opportunity perhaps I wouldn't loathe Christianity all that much!

The weird thing is, now that I am aware that an opportunity can arise, it seems that they have stopped. All the opportunities came when I was too damn dumb to know they were in front of me!

Matthew

Oh groan, what missed opportunities for both you guys. How sad indeed. For the girls as well, I'm sure. But thankfully life does have its cycles. So whatever missed opportunities happened before will eventually come again in a different form & face. You'll both be older & wiser by then with more opened eyes, it is hoped, if we can at all learn by our previous mistakes.

Posted by: biggles7268 Mar 17 2004, 04:03 AM
You guys aren't alone on missed opportunities, I've got serveral i've been kicking myself over for years.

Posted by: woodsmoke Mar 17 2004, 04:50 PM
Heh, Auntie Reach was right. It's amazing what a good night's sleep will do for one's perspective on life.

The depression has passed, for now, so that has a lot to do with my improved mood as well. Honetsly, right now I'm not worried about it all that much. I still regret missing my chance with Natalie, but now instead of dwelling on the loss I'm hoping that I'll have another chance somewhere on down the road. Who knows what the future holds, after all?

Damn this emotional roller coaster.

Posted by: Matthew Mar 17 2004, 05:28 PM
QUOTE
Oh groan, what missed opportunities for both you guys. How sad indeed. For the girls as well, I'm sure. But thankfully life does have its cycles. So whatever missed opportunities happened before will eventually come again in a different form & face. You'll both be older & wiser by then with more opened eyes, it is hoped, if we can at all learn by our previous mistakes.


Quite right. There doesn't go a day that I don't at least think once about Jeanine. It's not that I am trying to dwell in the past, but it's a good reminder of what to look forwards to and to never loose hope. I definitely hope I will meet another "Jeanine" sometime in my life.

Matthew

p.s. Congradulations Brick! I hope the very best for you!

Posted by: Reach Apr 2 2004, 05:32 PM

There is this one little, tiny thing (yes, I know that's redundant; it's there for emphasis) that is so appealing, so attactive, so sexy and yet so common I sometimes overlook it and take it for granted.

It's the way that man in my life says, "Yes," to me. I love that. It leaves me anxious to say, "Yes," to him as soon as possible, as often as I can and much more often. Yes.

Posted by: Fweethawt Apr 3 2004, 02:56 AM
A "real" conversation between He & She !

She: He?
He: "~~YES~~"
She: Do you think your attraction to me is more than just sexual?
He: "~~YES~~"
She: Are you absolutely sure?
He: "~~YES~~"
She: Would you rather talk, or make love to me right now?
He: "~~YES~~"
She: "~~YES~~" what, you want to talk?
He: NO!
She: So, you just want to make love to me then?
He: "~~YES~~" and NO!
She: Well then, I just want to talk right now.
He: *thinking "DANG!"* O.k. that's fine with me. Let's talk.

--------------------------------------------------------------
Alright, now comes the serious part!

Reach,

This might seem like it's coming from way out in left-field, but I have to make a quick comment to you on this one.

You might not believe this, but I have had several people, mainly women, who have actually paused and just looked at me in the middle of conversations because of the way that I say the word "Yes".

I know this sounds silly, but it's true. When this happened, I would look at them and just say, "What?". I've had at least two of them explain to me that, just the way that I pronounced that word, seemed different and sexy.

And I'm still not even sure as to why.
I just thought I'd mention this.

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And another thing, I did begin to put something together as another post for this particular thread, but I haven't worked on it in a while. I'll see if I can find it.

Posted by: Muggy Knubber Apr 5 2004, 06:36 PM
The thing I really find sexy is a woman who can predict precisely what I want at any given moment and have no inhibitions about following though with whatever I imagine at that very moment. She can surprise me when I want a surprise. In fact, she knows what I want before I know it. The only problem is that this is impossible and that woman doesn't exist.

Posted by: JezebelLeFey Apr 5 2004, 06:45 PM
I let one slip by. He was so hot too! Kinda looked like Tyrese, but well-spoken. Anyway, I could just kick myself in the ass for that one. Unfortunately, he came into my life at a bad time when my mom first got sick and all my focus was on the crap going on at home instead of on school and on personal developments.

Posted by: Alexy_Lady Apr 8 2004, 03:34 PM
ugh... some of the relationships I've had.... and haven't...

The things that most attract me to a man is when he has the ability to be completely sure of himself. Humor, wit, and intelligence are really good factors too. I like a man with a little bit of muscle. Not so much that his arms bulge, but enough that he can show me up with his sexy arms... or other muscular parts of his body... My ideal man is intelligent, humorous, and deep. Unfortunately, the one's I've met so far like this also have... insecurities and other issues that ruin any chance we have. I like a man who can handle himself, who can take care of his own problems, but still doesn't mind telling me about them and getting my insight. I like a man I can have a long and philisophical conversation with, who will truly listen to my answers and take them into account. I like a man who is bigger than me, however (I'm not that big... but I am tall), because it just feels right when you're wrapped in their arms.

Wow... memories starting to surface. Suck.

Really, I like a man who is his own person, who has his own thoughts, and who is willing to take me for who I am. I like him to be honest, open, and completely original in himself - not someone who dresses this way or believes this thing just because some band or artist or whatever does. I LIKE A REAL MAN. Not a boy in a man's body whom I am going to get stuck taking care of. I don't like a "nice guy" - they bore me. I like a guy who is willing to take a risk once in a while and have some fun. I like a guy who wants to travel. I plan on visiting specific places in Europe before I die and I'd like to experience them with him. I like a guy interested in art-type things. I have a thing for musicals so it would be nice if he enjoyed them too, or at least is willing to sit through a few with me. I like a guy who is willing to commit, but isn't clingy. I like a man who does remember to call, who sometimes calls just to say he was thinking of me. Not always of course, but sometimes. I like a guy who's modern, but has a chivilrous streak. Who opens the doors when we go to a restaraunt and always says I'm beautiful (even when I'm not). Of course, if he goes overboard with the beauty statements, then I'll know he's lying... and that is not good.

wow... seems like I want a lot.. doesn't it. Maybe I do. Most of these things that I know I like is because I've experienced them in a relationship... or wanted to and didn't.

I've only been in love twice. That seems like a small amount for someone in high school. Seems like high school girls are always "in love" with their boyfriends. They don't know what love is.

The first guy I ever loved didn't love me back. His name was Justin and he was beautiful. At least, I thought so. When I think back on it now, he may have been gay and I just didn't know how to pick 'em back them. I still don't, not really. Anyway, Justin was my friend. He was one of my best friends. I fell in love with him in seventh grade. He rode the same bus as I did and so we'd often talk on the ride home. We were among the last five to get off and our route was a country one so we'd usually get about a half an hour or so to talk on the bus. He was very intelligent... most of the time. And one of the funniest people I know. I loved that he could make me laugh. He always got this look on his face when I did. That was one of the things that made me fall for him, that look. Anyway, he was a grade higher than me and we ate lunch together, along with a few of his friends that quickly became mine as well. Over the course of that year he did many things that made me love him. One of these things was complimenting me. My dad didn't let me wear makeup because I was so young at the time. After he'd leave for work in the mornings, I'd sneak into my grandparent's bathroom (we lived with them) and put on a little of her makeup... just enough to be hidden in shadow, but noticed in direct light. He always knew when I was wearing it - even on a dark bus at 7 in the morning. He always told me that I looked great even without the make-up. Then he'd always pick up on quirky things I'd do during the day, and comment on them on the way home. He may not have like me the same way that I liked him... but he NOTICED me. I felt like a queen. In eighth grade I knew I was in love. He continued to do all of those things he had done the year before, and that year he was more mature. This year, however, we didn't have lunch together and sort of drifted apart. But next came freshman year! We were no longer seperated at lunch and once again spent much time together. Once again, I was in love. We became good friends again... just like we had been two years before. Then the blow fell. My dad wanted to move.. out of state. My one and only chance to do anything remotely date like with him came the week after I found out. The fall dance. I figured since I was moving in a few weeks anyway, I'd ask him. So I did. And he said no. His excuse? A track meet the same day as the dance. I was devastated. So the dance came and went... without me. I found out the next week that his best friend was in track and managed to go with my best friend nonetheless. The week after that... I moved in with my mom.

Which brings us to my next love. His name was Josh. I met him my sophmore year - a year which was very bad for me. I was very insecure and amazed that he even looked my way. I knew him only as "fry stealer" at first because that's what he did. He'd come to my table, steal the fries off my plate in an attempt to get my attention. Which... didn't work because at that point I had sworn off men. One day he stole my agenda (borrowed, really, I got it back the next day) and got my number out of it. A couple of days later he called me and we made plans to hang out. He was very sweet and funny... and he was a Senior. (sound familiar?) Best of all, seemed to be going somewhere. We dated all through that year, over the summer, and all through the next year when I was a Junior and he had graduated. He made plans to go into the army (man in uniform... swoon! ) and I continued in school. In october of that school year... (Oct of 2002, I believe) he went to boot camp. They let him come back over christmas and he proposed. Being a stupid kid, I said yes, and my mother allowed it... sort of. He went back to boot and I had a shiny new ring on my finger. What can I say? I was in love. He finished boot camp... but then somehow got out of the army. This is when I should have figured it out. Those places he was going? Wasn't happening. I should have known right then that if he wasn't even able to commit to two years of the army, how was he going to commit to me? But, I stood by him, blinded by love. After that... our relationship went downhill. He had no motivation whatsoever. Unfortunately, I still couldn't see this. In fact, I didn't even begin to have doubts until the beginning of this school year (I'm a senior) and he still didn't have a real job and was living at home. Plus, he hardly ever called and showed up sporatically. When he did show up, he expected me to be able to spend time with him, regardless of any plans I may have had beforehand. This was the cause of many arguements. About this time I became way messed up emotionally and began to wonder if this relationship was worth holding on to. After all, he wasn't doing much to make it work... Stupid me, I kept telling myself that maybe it will work... All I had to do was explain what I was feeling, right? Wrong. Everytime I broached the subject of his lack of motivation, he got very offended and once more we would fight. The only thing good about these fights was the make-up sex. (yes, we did have sex. he's the only guy I've ever had sex with though.) This cycle continued until February, when the blinders came off and I began to seriously plan for my future. I realized then that there was no way I could be happy with him pulling me down. In March, we broke it off and agreed to "stay friends". He promised to bring me my class ring the weekend after we ended it - this never happened. The next time he called he gave me a lame excuse and promised to bring it over the weekend after that. (NOTE: there were 3 weekends mentioned just now.) He never showed up. At this time, I met Rodan, and we formulated a plan to go get the ring ourselves. The next weekend I called him, told him I was coming, and that there was no way he could put me off. And so, the next day, we went. Rodan drove and gave me support during the whole time I was there. *thanks for that Rodan, you rock* Finally, a whole month after it was ended, I got my ring back. It's been only three weeks since this happened and I haven't heard from him since the day Rodan and I retrieved my ring, despite his expressed desire to "try and work things out". I'm glad to say that I'm completely over him... although on occasion I do miss the little plusses that came along with being in a real relationship.

Yep... so that's why I know what I like in a guy. I've had a couple who were exactly what I wanted in some ways, and what I didn't in others. Right now I am proud to say I am love-free and am only interested in the phenomenon of dating. Love can wait. I am only 17 (18 in three months), after all. What do I need love for now?

Posted by: Matthew Apr 8 2004, 03:44 PM
QUOTE (Alexy_Lady @ Apr 8 2004, 06:34 PM)
Yep... so that's why I know what I like in a guy. I've had a couple who were exactly what I wanted in some ways, and what I didn't in others. Right now I am proud to say I am love-free and am only interested in the phenomenon of dating. Love can wait. I am only 17 (18 in three months), after all. What do I need love for now?


At least you're not one of these female Christ-Cultists who says to herself "I have Jesus in my life so what do I need a boyfriend for?" These act like Jesus is their boyfriend or the object of their romantic dreams.

Matthew

Posted by: Matthew Apr 8 2004, 03:50 PM
QUOTE (Alexy_Lady @ Apr 8 2004, 06:34 PM)
: I don't like a "nice guy" - they bore me. I like a guy who is willing to take a risk once in a while and have some fun.


I have often been told that I am a nice, kind, and gentle guy so it kind of irks me when girls think this. Would you be willing to elaborate on what you mean by it?

Matthew

Posted by: mandylibra1979 Apr 8 2004, 04:05 PM
QUOTE (reach @ Mar 6 2004, 03:41 AM)

Total confidence is incredibly appealing. It's almost magical. The sexiest people I know are completely comfortable with who they are and so they exude confidence and make you feel wonderful in their presence.



I totally agree. When I worked as a stripper the girls that made the most $$$ were the ones who were confident. They weren't all necessarily the prettiest girls but they exuded confidence; it made them sexy.

I have talked with my husband about this many times and we both feel that you can actually make yourself appear attractive and sexy simply by having tons of confidence in yourself. Sometimes it isn't an easy thing to do.

I think that many of the girls used drugs and that helped to give them a fake sense of confidence also.

Posted by: Muggy Knubber Apr 8 2004, 04:21 PM
My sister has a theory that guys who are really skinny, wimpy looking, and physically unattractive but are brimming with confidence have a huge penis. I don't know if it's true, but it would explain Tommy Lee.

Posted by: yanra Apr 8 2004, 06:47 PM
Just look down at the size of his feet. That'll tell you everything you need to know.

Posted by: woodsmoke Apr 8 2004, 09:15 PM
To quote Jeff Foxworthy.... (paraphrasing one of my innumerable heroes)

QUOTE
We know you women have ways of trying to figure "things" out. 'Well, if he's got big feet, then, you know...' or 'if he's got big ears,' or 'a big nose...' Well I'll tell ya' he better be packin' 'cause that's one goofy lookin' guy!"


And I have to agree with Matthew about the "nice guy" thing. It really irritates me when girls ride on that in a negative way, as if it's a bad thing that we're too docile to go out and earn ourselves a criminal record.

Posted by: Alexy_Lady Apr 9 2004, 10:41 AM
QUOTE
I have often been told that I am a nice, kind, and gentle guy so it kind of irks me when girls think this. Would you be willing to elaborate on what you mean by it?


Most definetely. I'm not talking about guys who are nice, kind, and gentle. I'm talking about the NICE BOYs who never go out or do anything. And I know a few of those. What sucks is I like to have fun and if you even suggest doing something risque or out of the norm, they act like you've just asked them to murder someone. Once, my grandmother even tried to set me up with a "nice boy" who had dumped his exgirlfriend (a wonderful person, btw) because she was open to the idea of premarital sex. At this point I would like to say that 'guy' was definetely the wrong word to use there, and I apoligize.

Don't worry guys, most of the "nice boys" I know are xians, which rules them out of the fun list anyway.

Posted by: Matthew Apr 9 2004, 03:28 PM
QUOTE (Alexy_Lady @ Apr 9 2004, 01:41 PM)
QUOTE
I have often been told that I am a nice, kind, and gentle guy so it kind of irks me when girls think this. Would you be willing to elaborate on what you mean by it?


Most definetely. I'm not talking about guys who are nice, kind, and gentle. I'm talking about the NICE BOYs who never go out or do anything. And I know a few of those. What sucks is I like to have fun and if you even suggest doing something risque or out of the norm, they act like you've just asked them to murder someone. Once, my grandmother even tried to set me up with a "nice boy" who had dumped his exgirlfriend (a wonderful person, btw) because she was open to the idea of premarital sex. At this point I would like to say that 'guy' was definetely the wrong word to use there, and I apoligize.

Don't worry guys, most of the "nice boys" I know are xians, which rules them out of the fun list anyway.


Thanks Alexy,

Well I definitely am not a nice boy. I make no claims for myself although I am flattered that many people describe me as being sweet and gentle. I guess I am kind of a fun person. I am always up to shoot the breeze with a friend or so. What I do is just invite people to get to know me as me. If they like me, cool. If not, no big deal.

Matthew

Posted by: woodsmoke Apr 9 2004, 05:41 PM
Alright, thanks for the clarification. Sorry, I've got a lot of ugly history with girls who have problems with "nice guys," so I'm rather touchy about it.

Posted by: Reach Apr 9 2004, 06:43 PM
QUOTE (Muggy Knubber @ Apr 8 2004, 07:21 PM)
My sister has a theory that guys who are really skinny, wimpy looking, and physically unattractive but are brimming with confidence have a huge penis. I don't know if it's true...

QUOTE (yanra @ Apr 8 2004, 09:47 PM)
Just look down at the size of his feet. That'll tell you everything you need to know.


No offense but not hardly.
More generalizations bite the dust...

Posted by: woodsmoke Apr 9 2004, 08:02 PM
Wow, a Calvin gif. Though I didn't think it was possible, Aunt Reach, you're even more my hero for using that.

Posted by: Doug2 Apr 11 2004, 11:08 PM
An evil, kind female is very hot. Recently I ran into a female I knew many years ago. She is still very kind and I find that very appealing. Unfortunately she is a fundy, which is the wrong kind of evil.

Posted by: Emperor Norton II Apr 11 2004, 11:23 PM
QUOTE
An evil, kind female is very hot


Define evil.

QUOTE
Though I didn't think it was possible, Aunt Reach, you're even more my hero for using that


Clearly, with how awesome reach is, she has to be a Calvin and Hobbes fan.

Posted by: Doug2 Apr 11 2004, 11:37 PM
Someone not trapped in the fear of fundamentalism; willing to go against society and think on her own.

Posted by: woodsmoke Apr 12 2004, 01:35 AM
QUOTE (_rodan_)
Clearly, with how awesome reach is, she has to be a Calvin and Hobbes fan.


Good point.

Posted by: Dhampir Apr 12 2004, 08:33 AM
QUOTE
Just look down at the size of his feet. That'll tell you everything you need to know.
Bullshit. If anything, and there's some research behind it, it's a relation to the size of one's hands and fingers. I have small hands, but long fingers...

Posted by: Lanakila Apr 12 2004, 09:28 AM
You guys and the concern about size. Really I have had different sizes, and size doesn't fricken matter to me, or most females I know. Too big like a John Holmes is scary as hell btw. Its how turned on we are, and ready for it that matters way more than size.

The preoccupation with size is ridiculous imo.

Posted by: Dhampir Apr 12 2004, 11:06 AM
I just said that 'cause I have small feet, and I had it confirmed that that doesn't mean anything. We do agree that it has to do with the woman's mood whether or not she gets off.

Posted by: Muggy Knubber Apr 12 2004, 11:59 AM
Size doesn't matter. Anything bigger than 7 inches is too big anyway. Except for my girlfriend. She needs all 10" from me. But don't worry about the size of your package.

Posted by: TalkingDonkey Apr 12 2004, 12:08 PM
QUOTE (Lanakila @ Apr 12 2004, 09:28 AM)
You guys and the concern about size. Really I have had different sizes, and size doesn't fricken matter to me, or most females I know. Too big like a John Holmes is scary as hell btw. Its how turned on we are, and ready for it that matters way more than size.

The preoccupation with size is ridiculous imo.

Riiiiiiiiight.... I've seen Juwanna Mann.

I know the truth.

Posted by: woodsmoke Apr 12 2004, 03:43 PM
Must....be nice...... Can't....resist......

QUOTE (Jeff Foxworthy)
And God bless you women, you're always tryin' to comfort us. "Oh, honey, it's alright. After all, it's not the size o' the ship, it's the motion o' the ocean!" Well that may be true, but regardless it takes a long time to get to England in a rowboat!

Posted by: Emperor Norton II Apr 12 2004, 04:10 PM
QUOTE
But don't worry about the size of your package.


Hah! Not an inch short of six feet.

Posted by: Reach Apr 12 2004, 04:32 PM
QUOTE (Emperor Norton II @ Apr 12 2004, 02:23 AM)
QUOTE (Woody)
Though I didn't think it was possible, Aunt Reach, you're even more my hero for using that

Clearly, with how awesome reach is, she has to be a Calvin and Hobbes fan.

Thanks Your Highness and Woody.

Now, what's this about "not an inch short of six feet?" Oh, never mind.

My lovely Emperor, I do believe you've already hired the Jester.

Love you guys! Reach loves more than just Calvin and Hobbes.

>[Back on Topic] People who really like people are SO attractive. Don't you think so?

Posted by: Reach May 29 2004, 02:21 PM


What is sexy?

What's sexy is hearing the person you want say, "I want you."

Posted by: yanra May 29 2004, 03:24 PM
Confidence and a sense of humor.

Posted by: Killswitch May 30 2004, 07:16 PM
I think the woman ive been the most attracted to in life, had a complete "im going to be myself and not give a rats ass what other people think" attitude. Good lord.. i totally missed my chance on that one. Too bad she got married.

On looks, Red hair and green eyes are a combination that makes me go apeshit. Body type isnt that big of a deal... granted i dont want to lose circulation to my legs if she sits on my lap..but im pretty open. It turns me on to carry someone into the bedroom..what can I say.

/seriously sex deprived..as stated in my post a few days ago.

Posted by: Reach May 30 2004, 07:43 PM

QUOTE (Killswitch @ May 30 2004, 10:16 PM)
It turns me on to carry someone into the bedroom..what can I say.

/seriously sex deprived..as stated in my post a few days ago.

Nice thought, Killswitch... it's also wonderful to be kind of thrown on to the bed too...

I hope your deprived status is soon a thing of the past.

Posted by: sexkitten May 30 2004, 09:50 PM
QUOTE (reach @ May 30 2004, 07:43 PM)
. it's also wonderful to be kind of thrown on to the bed too...

This is one reason I want a shorter bed... Ours is up so high I almost need a stepladder to get in it...

Posted by: Lokmer May 30 2004, 10:21 PM
She might need a stepladder to

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