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Posted by: Rameus Feb 12 2005, 11:07 AM | ||||
Here is another entertaining email from my weekly bucket of Christian stupidity that Clergicide has persuaded me to share with the community. How anyone could think that evangelizing Rameus is going to be a productive use of their time is beyond my understanding. But they try, good Christ do they try. I can't imagine what sort of inane ramblings I am going to receive when my education is finished and my book is finally published. At that point, the messages will probably come in the form of bullets singing around me. Rameus
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Posted by: Reach Feb 12 2005, 11:28 AM | ||
They probably already tried praying for you with no result. James 5:16, edited: The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth... nothing. |
Posted by: Diogenes Feb 12 2005, 11:48 AM |
Let me see if I have this right: she is a tongue-speaker (Pentecostal), who hallucinates on a daily basis ("He works wonders in my life every day"), is possessed ("the Holy Spirit resides in me"), believes in a fiery underworld with demons carrying pitchforks (There is a hell), and talks to make-believe beings in the sky ("I will pray for you"), and she wonders about your mental stability ("Are you mad?"). |
Posted by: Clergicide Feb 12 2005, 11:48 AM | ||
I could have sworn I heard Christians bitching about Muslims for holding that belief. I wonder how she'll feel about her beliefs when her prayers to save your soul go unanswered. It probably won't be a rational conclusion, it'll probably be some self-delusion about the devil having too firm a grip on you. I'm not even convinced she will pray for you, that just seems to be an empty phrase that Christians use to heap guilt, like saying "I'm concerned about your soul, why aren't you?". |
Posted by: TexasFreethinker Feb 12 2005, 11:50 AM | ||||
She also shows an misunderstanding of what crime statistics show. That fact is that the violent crime rate has been decreasing for some time now (in the midst of all the godlessness she listed). The national murder rate is approximately the same as it was in 1962/3 when forced school prayer was made illegal. It's also telling that states which have the lowest murder rates are those in the "godless" Northeast - places like Vermont with its Gay Civil Unions and Massachusetts with gay marriage. Hotbeds of fundamentalist christianity in the South have among the highest murder rates, and have had for years. Futhermore, rises in the overall violent crime rate since 1960 (which has been decreasing again since the mid 1990s) has more to do with the prohibition / war on drugs than with non-submissive women or rampant homosexuality. |
Posted by: Madame M Feb 12 2005, 11:59 AM | ||||||
I was just talking to Gandalf today. Oh wait, that was just Merlin on the Ex-C forum. Damn, I thought I was onto something.
If they convert you, they you will cease fighting against Christianity. They fancy you a pretty big jewel for their heavenly crown, I imagine.
I don't even want to know what the devil is gripping. ROFLOL! |
Posted by: fortunehooks Feb 12 2005, 03:11 PM | ||||
you know, i was thinking the same thing. oh yes of course they prayed for rameus, but at this moment and many more to no avail. i don't know why xtians evangalize,but when they start i just point to something in history that they have limited knowledge of. i tell of the arian controversy, that ended with the culmination of jesus being merged with god as one in the same. i go alot more in detail, but you very intelligent people on this board already knew that. by all means rameus, destroy jp holding,and email it to bush. |
Posted by: Rameus Feb 12 2005, 11:40 PM | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I don't know why I bother taking the time to reply to these people when I know they are just going to spit back "blah blah blah poopie pants Jesus is Lord." Either I'm masochistic, or I just care about the future of the world far too much. Enjoy the madness:
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Posted by: Asimov Feb 13 2005, 12:50 AM |
AAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH...... *more maniacal laughter* Oh man....oh man....wooo what a funny. |
Posted by: MrSpooky Feb 13 2005, 01:16 AM |
Glad you have respect for my culture, Rameus. Sadly, I've only taken one university course on Ancient Chinese history, myself. |
Posted by: SilentLoner Feb 13 2005, 06:09 AM |
great responses Rameus! |
Posted by: Rameus Feb 13 2005, 08:47 AM | ||||
Perhaps I'm not as evil as they are expecting, which in the end may turn out to be more faith shaking then anything I could ever say to them. What, this evil atheist who is leading people astray isn't evil? It can't be!
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Posted by: MrSpooky Feb 13 2005, 10:53 AM |
Ooooh, Prometheus Books. I love their work. |
Posted by: ficino Feb 13 2005, 11:13 AM |
Rameus, you da man! Can you tell us more about the worship of Humpty Dumpty? Can we register as clergy in this religion and get big tax breaks? I admire you for undertaking your patient correspondence with Stacey. Maybe she'll learn something. Do you already teach as part of your graduate program? I can imagine your students saying things like, Prof. "Rameus" can be pretty sharp-tongued sometimes, but he really cares about his students, and he's helped us discover so much about the world and ourselves. Or something like that. |
Posted by: Valgeir Feb 13 2005, 03:43 PM |
Rameus- Good job through and through, man. Maybe I'll start directing some of my backed up fundy traffic your way. |
Posted by: Josalo Feb 13 2005, 07:39 PM | ||
One thing I'd like to point out about the email sent to you Rameus is that violent crimes dropped dramatically in the 1990's.
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Posted by: Pseudonym Feb 14 2005, 01:52 AM |
I don't technically "believe" in the concept of a conti nuation of existence after death; I entertain the prospect, as an intellectual argument, but I certainly don't pretend to know whether there is one or not. I'll be just as comfortable feeding the worms as providing fresh fodder for Nirvana, but the opinions expressed in the mails sent to you Rameus makes me hope that there is some form of conscious continuation, and when the adherents of Christianity finally enter into it and realise how simplistic, how deluded and fallacious their preconceptions of said state are, the rest can float around pointing and laughing which is essentially a more honest expression of the same psychological attitude Christian ideology promotes in this existence. |
Posted by: The Acid Washed Messiah Feb 14 2005, 08:00 AM |
Those were wonderful responses, Rameus. Can I have your permission to print out just the emails and responses and show them to someone who isn't online? |
Posted by: lalli Feb 14 2005, 10:15 AM |
Sekdamn Rameus, you're supposed to be a take-no-prisoners atheist asshole. Where'd all the compassion for the sheeple come from? |
Posted by: Casey Feb 14 2005, 09:37 PM | ||
Converting you Rameus, would be like making Seven No Trumps Redoubled Vul at $1000 a point with an Ace out. It's just possible with the right holding if you get the right lead, but highly improbable. Let's see now, that's $880,000 for the tricks, $1,500,000 bonus and a mere $100,000 for the insult. Total $2,480,000. You could at least buy a modest room in Heaven for that, surely? And if you're set, as you very likely will be? Oh well, that'll be $400,000 for the first undertrick and $600,000 for each one after that. "Oh my aching ass!" you might say. I must admit, I've never come across anyone quite that crazy at cards, but I have seen 'em try bids that were almost as insane. If playing cards can send some people that far around the bend, what could fundamentalist christianity do to them? I like your responses. That's the give to stuff 'em! Casey |
Posted by: Kali Aset Feb 22 2005, 03:33 AM |
*sigh* Trying to talk sense to a Fundie is almost always pointless. They dismiss most everything you say because you, my friend, are influenced by the big, bad man in red himself. (Wait, was that Santa or Satan? Eh, whatever. . . ) I heartily applaud your responses. Every word you wrote echoes my own sentiments, and I now have hope that their raving insanity will wither and die, and that this religious sickness will be washed clean from the earth. It should be noted that nearly all the intelligent, well educated people of this world rejected and continue to reject Christianity (including Lincoln, Paine, Jefferson, Nietszche, Voltaire, Madison, etc.) Here are some of my fav quotes: "Whenever we read the obscene stories, the voluptuous debaucheries, the cruel and tortuous executions, the unrelenting vindictiveness with which more than half the Bible is filled, it would be more consistent that we called it the word of a demon, than the word of God. It is a history of wickedness that has served to corrupt and brutalize mankind; and, for my part, I sincerely detest it, as I detest anything that is cruel." Thomas Paine "My earlier views of the unsoundness of the Christian scheme of salvation and the human origin of the scriptures has become clearer and stronger with advancing years." -Abraham Lincoln "What are the fruits of Christianity? Bigotry, superstition, and persecution." -President James Madison "In Christianity neither morality nor religion come into contact with reality at any point." Friedrich Nietzsche "Away, then, with the Christian theology! Away with a god invented by preachers of the bloody faith, who, without their important nothing, by means of which they explain everything, could no longer revel in superfluity; no longer glorify poverty and live in luxury themselves; no longer preach submission and practice arrogance; but who would, through the march of reason, be hurled into the deepest depths of oblivion." - Johann Most, The God Pestilence AMEN! |
Posted by: Lord Umbra Feb 22 2005, 05:57 AM |
DAMN!!! Remind me to NEVER cross swords with Rameus! Excellent ripostes, all the way around. |
Posted by: anony~mouse Feb 22 2005, 09:45 AM |
I liked a lot of what you said, with a few exceptions: 1. Egypt is actually a very liberal middle eastern country, somewhat similar to Turkey. Many women there wear makeup and western clothing. Afghanistan and a few other countries a little farther east are the ones more prone to forcing women to be subservient to men. Additionally, female circumcision occurs mainly in Islamic sub-Saharan African countries. I don't know where you got the idea that Muslim countries were so devoid of crime, but it's certainly not true. Regardless of religion (or lack thereof), every country has its problems. The rise of fundamentalist Islam is causing many problems for previously progressive Islamic countries, as it is starting to here in the U.S. 2. I also disagree with you on China. The Chinese government still has a disturbing amount of power over its citizens, and I don't care whether a country is predominantly Christian or atheist - NO government should have that much power. It doesn't matter who you are; power corrupts. |
Posted by: Rameus Feb 23 2005, 12:24 AM | ||||||||||||
Hi my name is Rameus, I've been there and I'm conversational in Egyptian colloquial Arabic. Do you mind terribly much if I make my own observations about a culture that I know something about? Thanks. Your assertion that Egypt is relatively liberal (in relation to most of the other Islamic societies which are ultra-conservative) as far as Islamic nations go is accurate. Although that’s sort of like saying that fascist Italy was relatively liberal compared to Nazi Germany. Your comment that many women there wear makeup and Western clothing is inaccurate. If you were speaking of Alexandria only, then perhaps you might have a reasonable statement.
It is also done in North Africa and parts of the Middle East. Thanks again for your input.
I could quite happily walk through any neighborhood in Cairo (20-22 million people) at one in the morning and think nothing of it. Would I have the same cavalier attitude in certain neighborhoods in New York City, Detroit, or Los Angeles at one in the morning? Probably not. Islamic countries have a Hell of a lot less violent crime then most Western countries my friend; especially the United States. This was the point I was attempting to make to Miss Johnson. You may not agree, but that does not change the fact that you are mistaken.
Obviously. You seem to have missed the point I was trying to make with these cultural analogies.
Again, obviously. How does this relate to my correspondences with Miss Johnson?
I can't say I'm terribly surprised. Rameus |
Posted by: jjacksonRIAB Feb 23 2005, 01:18 AM | ||||
Josalo, you bastard You beat me to the punch. There is neither correlation nor casuality, though they try to create some myth of the decline of Christianity as the reason that bad things are (or in this case, aren't) happening. |
Posted by: Mad_Gerbil Feb 23 2005, 03:25 AM |
We witness to Rameus because it is an attempt to covert the anti-Christ before all that plague/famine/sword stuff hits the fan. |
Posted by: Pseudonym Feb 23 2005, 03:32 AM |
I know that was meant as a joke Gerbil, but you have inadvertantly referred to a familiar and widely-used defence mechanism Christians the whole world over use when presented with ideas that conflict with their own preconceptions of "truth"; the condemnation of the harbourer of said ideas as "wicked", "in league with Satan" etc. The irony of this is that there are more Buddhists, Muslims and Hindus walking the earth today than there are Christians. This does not even take into account the atheists, the agnostics, the pagans, the wiccans, shintoists and so on, and so forth. Hell of a lot of Hell-worthy people alive and kicking today eh? |