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| Posted by: Merlinfmct87 Feb 19 2005, 12:13 AM | ||
What she said. Merlin |
| Posted by: Mad_Gerbil Feb 19 2005, 05:54 AM |
| You mean a single cable news source isn't portraying the news in exactly the way you want to view it? My STARS, somebody MUST STOP the privately held company from doing that! Hey, dude -- welcome to your first taste of what conservatives have had to endure since the invention of the TV set. We've been watching Dan Rather and his ilk slaughter objectivity now for 50 years. (Dan still doesn't think the memos are fake -- they've been getting away with that kinda journalism since the 60's). So yeah, protest -- it is your right -- or you can just do what you've told conservatives to do all along -- change the channel.  |
| Posted by: Madame M Feb 19 2005, 06:01 AM |
| I agree with MG. Who cares what Fox news is doing. Someone always disagrees with something. Viva la free speech. |
| Posted by: TexasFreethinker Feb 19 2005, 08:06 AM |
| Another vote for freedom of speech here (and for freedom of protest). |
| Posted by: Lokmer Feb 19 2005, 08:22 AM |
| 1 vote for free speech and freedom of protest. 1 more vote for throwing tomatos at people who can't tell the difference between art and porn when it's dressed up in religion.  1 further vote for throwing tomatos at people like Dan Rather and Brit Hume both - the difference between whom is qualitatively little more than the difference between a stupid ass and a dumb elephant. -Lokmer |
| Posted by: Mad_Gerbil Feb 19 2005, 08:49 AM | ||
*hands Lok a bag of tomatoes* |
| Posted by: The Silent One Feb 19 2005, 09:02 AM |
| A little revelation I had before, and I'd like to share. There is no such thing as either a conservative bias or liberal bias in the news, editorial/opinion shows however... yes, you'll see a lot of that. In the actual news? No. The true bias in the news industry is one of profit. Why do the liberals scream 'conservative bias!' at times, and the conservatives scream 'liberal bias!' at others? Often at the same news source? Because the news plays up whatever the most profitable stories are, the extreme, the outrageous, whatever will get people watching/sell papers/have people listen. Sometimes these stories stir up the liberals, sometimes they stir up the conservatives. To quote someone off the INTERNETS, "when the liberals are screaming about a conservative bias, and the conservatives are screaming about a liberal bias, the only possible explanation is there is no bias." Oh and one more vote to "change the channel/freedom to protest/freedom to throw tomatoes". TSO - working in the news industry for 3 years and counting |
| Posted by: Rhodacat Feb 19 2005, 10:02 AM |
| Fox news is the highest rated (watched) cable news station in the U.S. And it is full of Rush Limbaugh bullshit crapola. It is one continuous comercial for the Bush administration. "News casters" such as Bill O'Rielly and Sean Hanitty appeal to the anti-intellectual American majority who believe that mixing fact and opinion is the real thing. O.K. maybe Michael Moore does the same thing. What makes me sick about Fox news is that they play so close to the Bush agenda that it is truely a propaganda machine. I have watched over and over people who are on the "left" side of an argument get cut/off and dumped on. I refuse to watch the station and have like many other request my cable carrier pull it from my subscription. |
| Posted by: ChefRanden Feb 19 2005, 10:16 AM |
| I see no point in asking a jackass not to be a jackass. I grant them free speech, even though they would not do the same. Anyone who thinks any tv news is telling them the truth deserves what she gets. . |
| Posted by: Madame M Feb 19 2005, 10:23 AM | ||
I do have to agree with this. I was forced to endure the Fox news channel when my father visited. I know alot of conservatives think it is great when the liberals are cut off mid sentence. |
| Posted by: Reach Feb 19 2005, 10:32 AM |
| It sounds like someone has been reading, http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0060924357/102-7964157-4567309?v=glance. |
| Posted by: Lord Umbra Feb 19 2005, 11:11 AM |
| Do you want some cheese and crackers to go with your whine? My favorite button on my TV set is the one labelled "power". Screw changing the channels. Face it, people, EVERYONE IS BIASED! Why anyone keeps lamenting over the media and how "unfair" they are is beyond me. I treat TV the same way I treat religion--I don't trust it, therefore I don't bother with it. Any news I need can be obtained from the internet. Down and dirty. What I want, no more, no less. If I want entertainment, that's what they made VCRs and DVDs for. I cut off my cable back in '95 and haven't looked back since. Who needs this aggravation? 197 channels of annoying garbage that I PAY for? Oh, hell no! Anyway, that's my two cents. |
| Posted by: Rhodacat Feb 19 2005, 12:14 PM |
| Do you want some cheese and crackers to go with your whine? My favorite button on my TV set is the one labelled "power". Screw changing the channels. Face it, people, EVERYONE IS BIASED! Why anyone keeps lamenting over the media and how "unfair" they are is beyond me. quote from Lord Umbra Dear Lord, My feelings also, While working my ass off to get Bush out of office I had to endure the "Swiftboat Veterens" bullshit and everything else being propagated by the Fox news channel. I finally resolved to say fuck-it with politics and focus on nature. now all I do is hike because fuck you just can't fight city hall.  |
| Posted by: spidermonkey Feb 19 2005, 12:23 PM | ||
That's exactly why I refuse to get cable in my new place. I deal with enough idiocy and bullshit on the TV when I go to the gym. I usually just bury my face in a magazine while I'm there. I don't need that at home! |
| Posted by: Mad_Gerbil Feb 19 2005, 01:11 PM |
| Oh dear -- I find myself agreeing with a bunch of infidels. *tastes some holy water* ..well, it doesn't burn yet so I'm okay! --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I stopped watching Dan Rather/60 Minutes fully 15 years ago because I became angry and how snide and one sided everything was at the time. I find Sean Hannity annoying (although I do listen) because he uses complex questions way too much ("Have you stopped beating your wife yet? JUST ANSWER THE QUESTION!). In the new house I'm getting I'm really conflicted over getting cable. I really want the History Channel but I've no use for every other single channel in the package. I've no use for any media outlet right now -- I'm just so sick of all the crap. If ya wanna learn about something pick up a book from each opposing camp and read through the arguments. Ya learn alot that way. |
| Posted by: Clergicide Feb 19 2005, 01:19 PM |
| TV is mostly crap, the only intellectually redeeming programing, as silly as it sounds, are animated series like The Simpson, Futurama, Family Guy, Drawn Together etc. they at least have the balls to push the satirical envelope and refuse to accept taboo subjects. The Daily show, and occasionally Real Time with Bill Maher are the exceptions. The rest of network programming is a pissing contests to see who can make the most intellectually devoid tripe to entertain the lowest common denominator. |
| Posted by: Mad_Gerbil Feb 19 2005, 01:20 PM | ||
RFLOL! I love good rants. |
| Posted by: spidermonkey Feb 19 2005, 01:24 PM | ||
That's how I like learning about other viewpoints best. I find it more productive to read material written by people of that particular viewpoint than to watch some stupid televised shouting match passed off as "debate." Come to think of it, I'm not really that big on debate myself. |
| Posted by: Yaoi Huntress Earth Feb 19 2005, 01:31 PM | ||
Oh that asshole. My feelings toward him can be best described in a quote by Bill Hicks: "Since when is mediocracy and banallity good for anyone? I want my kids to listen to stuff that fucking rocked! I don't care if the lead singer choked on piles of his own vomit." |
| Posted by: Slayer-2004 Feb 19 2005, 02:05 PM | ||
Sofriggen true . I dont see why anyone would actually pay for satelite/cable when ussually only 2 of the 300 something channels you get are actually worth watching . Its all totall crap . I pay for high speed DSL and download anime via bit torrent . Thats my television . |
| Posted by: Rhodacat Feb 19 2005, 03:54 PM |
| While out this morning I saw a bumper sticker GOD BLESS The USA, the troops, President Bush but not Hollywood and the liberals. Basicly a mind set that says if you don't think the Passion is Oscar worthy then you are not on God's side, you don't appreciate the sacrafice of our troops and you belong in hell. Face it we live in a period not far from the ideology of the dark ages. |
| Posted by: Mad_Gerbil Feb 19 2005, 04:19 PM | ||
This really has to stop -- for your own sanity. A bumper sticker is hardly a portent of the dusk of a new dark ages. When the government is controlled by a priesthood or a pope instead of the people then you might have a point... until then, stop wringing your hands over an apocalypse that ain't here yet. |
| Posted by: spidermonkey Feb 19 2005, 04:33 PM | ||
And Shrub is.....? I don't trust the sonofabitch to keep his rotten faith out of the government. |
| Posted by: Clergicide Feb 19 2005, 05:18 PM | ||||
The problem, Gerby, is it looks like the majority in America is brainless Christians, and they want someone that honestly believes in the children's book the Holy Bible. Lots of wonderful upcoming public policy is a direct result of lunatic christian thinkings..just look at the new FCC bill. Democracy fails us in that the ignorant masses, the inbred majority have the final say..I wouldn't mind that so much if the people they got to choose from had to pass a test to prove they can handle the job...I don't think it's unfair to say that such a test would have barred Bushy from candidacy. It may be too much to say we're approaching the dark ages..but it's no stretch to say we're moving in that general direction, when religion is forcing policy that affects the way we speak, behave, and act. |
| Posted by: Mad_Gerbil Feb 19 2005, 05:24 PM | ||||
I don't trust any President to remain in bounds in regard to the Constitution. Hence the need for the 3 branches.... |
| Posted by: Valgeir Feb 19 2005, 08:27 PM | ||
Yes, but when the same indoctrinated fuckjobs seize all three branches we enter a tentative social state referred to as "Royally fucked". |
| Posted by: General Chang Feb 19 2005, 08:30 PM | ||
Ok, maybe news is straight fact, but choosing to broadcast news that sheds favorable light on an agenda while opting out of broadcasting news that sheds unfavorable light on that same agenda is bias too. |
| Posted by: jjacksonRIAB Feb 20 2005, 11:56 AM |
| As far as I'm concerned, all of the major news sources are shitfests extraordinair. When you're not on sensory overload from the user interface they impose on you, you find yourself becoming catationic at the endless propagandizing. Ironically, it seems most people actually watch the news to become "informed" - in other words, to have their opinions spoon fed to them, which they will endlessly parrot to those willing and unwilling to listen. Congratulations, you just proved it impossible for cloning to be banned. The Ministry of Truth ™ - taking a shit all over real news since before you were born! |
| Posted by: Rhodacat Feb 20 2005, 06:11 PM |
| Thank You Clerg and Spider, O.K. Gerb I was overreacting when I said "dark ages" Perhaps you'll understand when I tell you that I just finished an article in The Nation "Our Godless Heritage" The author points out that the founders of our country were from "The Enlightenment" or "Age of Reason" Franklin, Washington, Adams, Hamilton etc.(None of these men were Christian in the evangelical sence but rather Deist/Unitarian Universalist or just plain secularist.).. were all too familure with the Machiavellian creedo "Use religion as a tool to controle the people." Our founders sought to form a government founded on a democracy apart from this aristocratic vestigy. I really can't look at the Bush administration/Fox News and see a country that embraces Thomas Jefferson's veiws about free speech, I don't see a government that is following franklins faith in scientific progress, I don't see a nation embracing the selflessness of Washington's refusal of absolute power. (Where is there a politition today who would give up the opportunity to be king?) When I study the founding fathers I can't help but think, 'What the fuck is going on in our country today????" |
| Posted by: Vixentrox Feb 20 2005, 06:19 PM |
| Do you really belive Xtians got any more hold over the country than say the 1830s? I bet if you took a poll in the past on how many people claimed to be Xtians compared to today, you would find that higher % of people in the past claimed to be Xtian than today in the USA. Nothing to support that but then, I don't have anything to contradict it it. (yeah, I'm too lazy right now to actually try to look). |
| Posted by: Rhodacat Feb 20 2005, 06:33 PM |
| Do you really belive Xtians got any more hold over the country than say the 1830s? I bet if you took a poll in the past on how many people claimed to be Xtians compared to today, you would find that higher % of people in the past claimed to be Xtian than today in the USA. Nothing to support that but then, I don't have anything to contradict it it. (yeah, I'm too lazy right now to actually try to look). quote from Vixentrox Being a United States of American Christian 20-30-40 150-years ago would find you in a whole different political ball game. Christians in the past kept their religion at church or in their personal lives. In the 70's Born Again Christians helped elect Jimmy Carter! Today the idea that a democrat can be a Christian is Heresy. What the republicans have done is to convince the American public that all that's wrong in our country is the fault of the liberals/non-belivers+ This is why I long for the good-ole-days!!! |
| Posted by: Merlinfmct87 Feb 20 2005, 06:38 PM |
| It's not about supressing their right of free speech. I would have thought that obvious. It's about not letting lies stand. Half the point of free speech is so that different ideas can be debated. That means it is the responsability of people to defend their ideas. I NEVER said Fox didn't deserve to be able to say whatever the fuck it wants, nor did Catia. We simply tried to make people aware of the lies they are pushing. These aren't lunatics, they are mainstream people who are believing lies. If we take action when the government tries to change how we live, why shouldn't we take action when Fox does the same? Merlin |
| Posted by: Merlinfmct87 Feb 20 2005, 06:42 PM | ||
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| Posted by: anony~mouse Feb 24 2005, 10:09 AM | ||
I've got the same problem, only with me, it's Comedy Central. Virtually the only show I ever watch is The Daily Show with Jon Stewart. And it's a pretty steep cable bill for 2 1/2 hours of entertainment per week. (Less if they're taking a vacation.) |
| Posted by: Euthyphro Feb 25 2005, 01:23 AM | ||
I love watching programing that I disagree (hate) with. I can't get enough of it. I am just sick that way. But on the other hand I think it would be a real hoot if enough people bitched about certain programing and Fox would actualy respond accordingly. I would piss myself! >Good call with the option of changing the channel though.  |