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| Printable Version of Topic Click here to view this topic in its original format ExChristian.Net Open Forums > Rants & Replies > It's Started, And It's Going To Get Ugly Posted by: Lokmer Apr 6 2004, 01:58 PM One of the major theonomist pushes has started. http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/bal-te.obscenity06apr06,0,3004361.story?coll=bal-home-headlines -Lokmer Posted by: sexkitten Apr 6 2004, 02:11 PM They are prosecuting *adult* porn? Ergh. Posted by: =Veritas= Apr 6 2004, 02:13 PM Good!!! I'm sick of getting the SPAM porno sites in my email box! I report them as SPAM and they go into a filter, but it seems to do no good. Pornography will always be available to those that want to see it, but I don't want to be inundated with pornographic images wherever I go. It's becoming vexatious. Just my $.02 =Veritas= Posted by: biggles7268 Apr 6 2004, 02:19 PM QUOTE Either way, Nguyen, father of a 2-year-old girl, and his co-workers spend their days scouring the Internet for the most obscene material, following leads sent in by citizens and tracking pornographers operating under different names. The job wears on them all, day after day, so much so that the obscenity division has recently set up in-house counseling for them to talk about what they're seeing and how it is affecting them. "This stuff isn't the easiest to deal with," Nguyen said recently while at his computer. "But I think we're going after the bad guys and we're making a difference, and that's what makes it worthwhile." I want that job, i think i could handle looking at porn for a couple more hours than i do now. Posted by: sexkitten Apr 6 2004, 02:21 PM QUOTE (biggles7268 @ Apr 6 2004, 02:19 PM) QUOTE Either way, Nguyen, father of a 2-year-old girl, and his co-workers spend their days scouring the Internet for the most obscene material, following leads sent in by citizens and tracking pornographers operating under different names. The job wears on them all, day after day, so much so that the obscenity division has recently set up in-house counseling for them to talk about what they're seeing and how it is affecting them. "This stuff isn't the easiest to deal with," Nguyen said recently while at his computer. "But I think we're going after the bad guys and we're making a difference, and that's what makes it worthwhile." I want that job, i think i could handle looking at porn for a couple more hours than i do now. It would certainly be more interesting than my current job. But, I'd really hate to be part of shutting down that stuff. Posted by: Lokmer Apr 6 2004, 02:23 PM Didn't read the article, did you? They are preparing to prosecute EVERYONE. Spam is already illegal - people do it anyway. They are prepping cases against HBO, Showtime, regular R-rated material. The department official in the article said: QUOTE "We want to do everything we can to deter this conduct" by producers and consumers, Oosterbaan said. "Nothing is off the table as far as content." Do you have any conception of the scope of this? This isn't the porn spammers in your box. They're going after the entertainment industry, the artists who are producing erotic but not pornographic material, the magazines, everything. This is not good. And it's an assault on your liberty as well. "When they came for the Jews I said nothing, because I was not a Jew. When they came for the union members I said nothing, because I was not a union member. When they came for the Catholics, I said nothing, because I was not a Catholic. When they came for me, no one said anything, because they all had already been taken." -Martin Neumueller, German theologian, 1942 -Lokmer Posted by: =Veritas= Apr 6 2004, 02:31 PM Oh! Well then, this is BAD! Time to leave the country. I think the U.K. has a lot of pornographic outlets, no? And no, I didn't completely read the article. Sorry, maybe I should've done that before voicing my rant. Oh, and thanks for letting me off easy Lokmer. I know if I was at your house you'd probably give me a swift smack upside the head. Here, I'll do it for you... Is that good enough? =Veritas= Posted by: Lokmer Apr 6 2004, 02:32 PM Very good. Now go read -Lokmer Posted by: phoenix Apr 6 2004, 02:39 PM aw, damn. and i was thinking of opening a porn site to make a little much-needed cash... Posted by: biggles7268 Apr 6 2004, 02:39 PM this is another attempt from GW to get people thinking about things other than Iraq. funny all the problems in this country and this is the second non issue in a row they've focused on Posted by: sexkitten Apr 6 2004, 02:40 PM QUOTE (=Veritas= @ Apr 6 2004, 02:31 PM) Oh! Well then, this is BAD! Time to leave the country. I think the U.K. has a lot of pornographic outlets, no? And no, I didn't completely read the article. Sorry, maybe I should've done that before voicing my rant. Oh, and thanks for letting me off easy Lokmer. I know if I was at your house you'd probably give me a swift smack upside the head. Here, I'll do it for you... Is that good enough? =Veritas= This one's more fun: Posted by: formerfundie Apr 6 2004, 02:54 PM Whoooooooooaaaaaaaaa! It's gettin really scary. Especially the thing about there being "no limits" FF Posted by: The Pure One Apr 6 2004, 03:20 PM Ugh, Bush is such a prick, and Ashcroft is indescribable. Bush has NOTHING close to a popular mandate for his social conservative bullshit, he barely won the election. Yet he is going to do as much damage in Jesus' name as possible while he is in office. I agree with one comment in the article, they are seriously misreading the pulse of America, and this is going to backfire. Posted by: Judyism Apr 6 2004, 03:36 PM *sigh* QUOTE Pornography is a $12-$13 billion-a-year industry-more than the combined annual revenues of the Coca-Cola and McDonnell Douglas corporations. -From an Affair of the Mind by Laurie Hall. Yet no one is looking at any. Especially any "Xtians." It's only bound to get worse. We'll be living in a Theocracy soon, if we're not already. Posted by: Madame M Apr 6 2004, 04:09 PM Once again, Bush is using "pulpit issues" to draw in the gullible religious right and blind them from the fact that he is sucking away their freedoms. As long as he is appeasing their anti-abortion, anti-homosexual and anti-pronography sensibilities, they seem to not care that they are going to end up in a police state. Wake up Christians, take some mental penicillan and fight the mind virus! Once they get in there and take down some of our rights, it might be something you hold dear next! Posted by: woodsmoke Apr 6 2004, 04:41 PM Thanks Lokmer, now if you'll excuse me I have to go throw up. I suppose it's not surprising, considering the movement is being headed by ASScroft. I was thinking about the "speak up" quote, as well. MM's right. So long as Bush keeps directing his point of attack at their weak spot, the conservatives will continue to surrender more and more of their rights to him. It's not even just Christians anymore, just conservatives in general. And I think Biggles has hit the nail directly on the head. Though there's still a controversy over it, the homosexual marriage scene is getting old and kind of stale. Just about every opinion that can be voiced has been now, so in essence it would be beating a dead horse. So the Herr Bush administration introduces this new "controversy" to keep the United States' public busy. "Servicing the account," anyone? Posted by: chefranden Apr 6 2004, 04:55 PM QUOTE Either way, Nguyen, father of a 2-year-old girl, and his co-workers spend their days scouring the Internet for the most obscene material, following leads sent in by citizens and tracking pornographers operating under different names. Except for the time they spend in the men's room jacking off. Posted by: chrome Apr 6 2004, 05:28 PM QUOTE (Lokmer @ Apr 6 2004, 02:23 PM) Do you have any conception of the scope of this? This isn't the porn spammers in your box. They're going after the entertainment industry, the artists who are producing erotic but not pornographic material, the magazines, everything. This is not good. And it's an assault on your liberty as well. Lokmer is right, this is a violation of our rights as citizens. If I want porn damnit, I damn well expect to be able to get it. It's my right. This is a devisive religious ruse to FORCE everyone to live by xian religious code. Regan started this, Bush I tried to keep it alive and Bush II was poised to start again, but 9-11 happened and moved their focus away from the issue. In the mean time the adult industry grew by 100's of millions of dollars a year. And just a note on porn spam... it only occurs because, a)spammers have not been stopped yet, and b)because sex is so immoral (yeah, right...) people actually respond to the email, which makes more porn email because there is a market for it. The people responding are usually highly repressed, ashamed, or have some other issues with sex and sexuality. So my solution is... be honest and open about sex. When you do that, you take back the shame, teach others that sex is natural, and remove the power from government and the shady porn dealers who scam people. No one should have porn in their faces all of the time, especially when you chose not to be exposed to it. However we need to stand up and say, "We are not going to pay those high prices, we don't want unsolicited porn coming to us, and the government needs to keep their nose out of our sex lives." This rant only covers responsible, mature, consenting adult porn by the way... Posted by: Casey Apr 6 2004, 05:38 PM First of all, thanks Lokmer, for a very interesting post. (I have read the article.) Some things spring to mind. QUOTE Obscenity cases came to a standstill under Janet Reno, President Bill Clinton's attorney general, who focused on child pornography, which is considered child abuse and comes under different criminal statutes. The ensuing years saw an explosion of porn, so much so that critics say that Americans' tolerance for sexually explicit material rivals that of Europeans I'm all for taking on child pornography. As far as I'm concerned, anyone who has anything to do with that ought to be locked up until he or she rots. But as to the last bit, so what? No one's forcing anyone to look at the stuff. QUOTE The prolific Zicari is charged with selling five allegedly obscene videotapes, which he now markets as the "Federal Five," that depict simulated rapes and murder. Well, they may as well have him too. Aren't there enough of the real crimes going on? I don't mean that anyone should be prosecuted who portrays such things as part of a film or drama, where they are part of a larger story line, but making movies that consist solely of simulated rape and or murder scenes is just Others may see things differently, so that might be just me, I realize. One last quote before I get off the soapbox. QUOTE Ashcroft, a religious man who does not drink alcohol or caffeine, smoke, gamble or dance, and has fought unrelenting criticism that he has trod roughshod on civil liberties in the wake of the Sept. 11 attacks, is taking on the porn industry at a time when many experts say Americans are wary about government intrusion into their lives. Well, bully for Himself! But as we're talking obscenity, why can't he see that polluting Afghanistan and Iraq with nuclear materials, to wit DPU munitions, is a far worse obscenity than people being able to get hold of their favourite stick books and or movies. It will take years to undo the damage the DPUs have done, if it can be undone at all. Americans being wary of government intrusion into their lives? They had better be a sight more wary yet, if you ask me, in the light of the Patriot Act. Why, if you were to protest about a raid on your favourite video or book store, you could be locked up as a terrorist, couldn't you? Casey Posted by: PriorWorrier Apr 6 2004, 05:52 PM QUOTE (Casey @ Apr 6 2004, 05:38 PM) Well, bully for Himself! But as we're talking obscenity, why can't he see that polluting Afghanistan and Iraq with nuclear materials, to wit DPU munitions, is a far worse obscenity than people being able to get hold of their favourite stick books and or movies. It will take years to undo the damage the DPUs have done, if it can be undone at all. Casey, I've read a little about the depleted uranium munitions. I assume that's what you are referring to. I've seen it abbreviated elsewhere as du, dPu and DpU. Truly nasty stuff with a half-life twice as long as recorded history. We can't find anywhere to dispose of our nuclear waste in this country so we're exporting it to destinations on the axis of evil on the tips of warheads. It's what makes bunkerbusters work. Isn't there something in the Geneva Convention that says you can't behave this way? I've read that some of our own soldiers are already suffering the side effects of exposure to these weapons from the Gulf War. Posted by: Casey Apr 6 2004, 06:17 PM QUOTE Truly nasty stuff with a half-life twice as long as recorded history. We can't find anywhere to dispose of our nuclear waste in this country so we're exporting it to destinations on the axis of evil on the tips of warheads. Absolutely, Prior Worrier. QUOTE I've read that some of our own soldiers are already suffering the side effects of exposure to these weapons from the Gulf War. You're right. They are, and there are already reports of birth defects and so on in Afghanistan, Iraq, AND the US that are linked to the use of these bloody things. The issue may well become as big as the Agent Orange controversy. Might I appeal to someone more au fait with the Internet than I? I know there was a report written in Hustler magazine on the issue of the side effects of these weapons. If memory serves, it was about a female US Army Sergeant who reported side-effects and was ignored by her own Army heirarchy. I know because I saw that issue of the magazine, but as I said, someone may be able to find a link. That same someone might find a link to the Geneva Convention as well. I believe using such weapons in war is about as low as poisoning water supplies and the like. Casey Posted by: Jameson Apr 6 2004, 07:20 PM We have a right to pornography. To think I voted for W in 2000 . This is a crazy case of infingement of liberty. Those that don't like porn don't have to view it. The interesting thing is the Miller test (Miller v. California 1973) calls for community standards to declare an item obscene. According to a prominent constitutional lawyer (I can't remember his name) the juries most likely to acquit are old women. they understand there ae more important things to worry about. For a related topic see http://www.beholder.com. A wacked out group shutdown a successful family business that was renting "objectionable videos. Posted by: SuicydeAlley Apr 6 2004, 08:19 PM QUOTE Ashcroft, a religious man who does not drink alcohol or caffeine, smoke, gamble or dance, and has fought unrelenting criticism that he has trod roughshod on civil liberties in the wake of the Sept. 11 attacks, is taking on the porn industry at a time when many experts say Americans are wary about government intrusion into their lives. Can I get a hallelueeeeeeah? We have found the Messiah in the flesh. Posted by: Reality Amplifier Apr 6 2004, 08:51 PM Whatever small battles the religious right may win now, I believe will only work against them in the future. This type of creeping religious fascism has been pushed back before. I think it can actually act as a catalyst to swing things back more firmly the other way. Prohibition comes to mind as an example. Please reconsider throwing your arms in the air and thinking about moving to Canada. Staying and standing in opposition to such assaults from the religious right will eventually work for us. If we all stand...we shall overcome. Posted by: Matthew Apr 6 2004, 08:59 PM RA, I agree with you. The best way to fight religious perversions of the 1st Amendment is to stand ground and fight for what we believe. Religous facisim should always blow up in the faces of those who push it and so as long as we take a stand, we can ultimately win in the long run! Matthew Posted by: JezebelLeFey Apr 6 2004, 09:54 PM QUOTE Ashcroft, a religious man who does not drink alcohol or caffeine, smoke, gamble or dance, See, that's his fucking problem! Maybe if he toked a joint, knocked back some joe on his way to Vegas to dance the night away, he'd chill out. Does anyone else think it's extremely disturbing how the religious right can't see the difference betwen grown men and women looking at grown men and women's bodies and looking at an underdeveloped child's body? Yeah, cuz I'm so sure that when I look at Hugh Jackman and picture him naked it's just like looking at the fat little kids on my block. Or when a man looks at a picture of a curvy Playboy Playmate, he sees no difference between her and little Sally Mae down the street? Posted by: JezebelLeFey Apr 6 2004, 09:57 PM QUOTE (Casey @ Apr 6 2004, 05:38 PM) <snip> Americans being wary of government intrusion into their lives? They had better be a sight more wary yet, if you ask me, in the light of the Patriot Act. Why, if you were to protest about a raid on your favourite video or book store, you could be locked up as a terrorist, couldn't you? Casey Yes. Posted by: chrome Apr 6 2004, 11:17 PM QUOTE (Reality Amplifier @ Apr 6 2004, 08:51 PM) Whatever small battles the religious right may win now, I believe will only work against them in the future. This type of creeping religious fascism has been pushed back before. I think it can actually act as a catalyst to swing things back more firmly the other way. Prohibition comes to mind as an example. Please reconsider throwing your arms in the air and thinking about moving to Canada. Staying and standing in opposition to such assaults from the religious right will eventually work for us. If we all stand...we shall overcome. Your post made me think of a book I read many, many years back. It's an excellent, but very long book. United States of America vs. Sex How the Meese Commission Lied About Pornography by Philip Nobile and Eric Nadler Minotaur Press, Ltd. (1986) 370 pp The Meese report is HUGE, almost 1000 pages long. But it is very interesting to read the actual report. After reading these two books, I learned that pornography cannot be defined, obscenity falls into the same category and the Meese commission was nothing more than a witch hunt that destroyed many legitimate businesses. Stand up for your freedoms, we could end up with 700 cable channels showing only wholesome 50's style programs. Oh, and infomercials... gotta have those... *...it slices, it dices, it censors your freedoms, it's the jesus-o-matic. if you call with in the next 20 minutes you get a free KJV Bible. call now, operators are standing by...* Posted by: brick Apr 7 2004, 06:02 AM Wasn't this tried in Russia long ago? Didn't it only succeed in driving the industry underground increasing new 'criminal' activity? WTF are these idiots trying to accomplish with this? Don't they realize that the $Billions being generated by this industry is coming from their own pockets? The US is a predominantly christian nation who obviously likes to spend $Billions annually feeding their lusty impulses; do they think it is some extremely wealthy immoral minority they are targeting here? What are they going to do once they've wiped out erotica of any sort and get to feeling randy? Look at a Sears catalogue in the bra section? A fine example of the stupid leading the stupid. Posted by: Tocis Apr 7 2004, 06:27 AM QUOTE In a speech in 2002, Ashcroft made it clear that the Justice Department intends to try. He said pornography "invades our homes persistently though the mail, phone, VCR, cable TV and the Internet," and has "strewn its victims from coast to coast." WTF?! Who forces people to stay tuned if they see something they don't want to see? As for the topic itself... I think I hear something in the distance... sounds like a huge mass of people shouting... I thin I can understand... they shout... "Sieg Heil!" (Or is it "Praise the lord!"?) Posted by: ineedtranquilitynow Apr 7 2004, 09:47 AM The porn industry serves an extremely beneficial service, do not blame them alone for all the trash along the information highway. Posted by: mandylibra1979 Apr 7 2004, 10:17 AM QUOTE (Judyism @ Apr 6 2004, 07:36 PM) We'll be living in a Theocracy soon, if we're not already. I think that we already are . . . Posted by: Dhampir Apr 7 2004, 10:48 AM Friends...*rubbing hands together* Its all a matter of how you look at it. It is horrible, I admit, but I see a hideous backlash coming, one that I believe will show these people once and for all (for all being at least a century) that they will never control the minds of the people they...control. The best case scenario? A second sexual revolution, the likes of which will be unrivaled for all time. That's where my interest ends. 'Cause there is a worst case scenario, that my mind reels in horror at. Millions upon millions of unsatisfied everyday people, driven to find erotic the only things available to them. Unable to find release in the veiwing of pornographic material, thousands, maybe millions of new rape cases begin to be reported yearly. America can, if the sexless right is successful, become a nation of victims, who raise a generation of victims, who in turn make greater victims of the already victimized. I just scared myself, I really think the public should be on guard against this threat, it's bigger than we think. Posted by: biggles7268 Apr 7 2004, 12:40 PM QUOTE "strewn its victims from coast to coast." Really what victims would that be? Posted by: sexkitten Apr 7 2004, 12:46 PM QUOTE (biggles7268 @ Apr 7 2004, 12:40 PM) QUOTE "strewn its victims from coast to coast." Really what victims would that be? <<raises hands>> <<sniffles>> I was assaulted by a giant stack of porn videos. They fell on top of me, and buried me, and smothered me, and wouldn't let me get up. Everytime I moved, more would fall on me. Some hit my head, and left bumps and bruises. <<sobs uncontrollably>> I still have nightmares about it. Posted by: Emperor Norton II Apr 7 2004, 01:06 PM QUOTE I just scared myself, I really think the public should be on guard against this threat, it's bigger than we think Dark ages all over again! I am still up for the expatration... fuck the US, we'll go somewhere where freedom isn't just a word to inspire thousands of mindless xian stormtroopers onwards. With all of the underhanded, treacherous actions of Bush's administration, anyone ever thought about what'd happen if Junior refuses to give up the Presidency? Posted by: Dhampir Apr 7 2004, 01:14 PM QUOTE With all of the underhanded, treacherous actions of Bush's administration, anyone ever thought about what'd happen if Junior refuses to give up the Presidency? Be a lot like Milosivich, or Castro, or Hitler....Then again, he refused to give up the presidency in 2000. Posted by: biggles7268 Apr 7 2004, 01:29 PM QUOTE (sexkitten @ Apr 7 2004, 12:46 PM) QUOTE (biggles7268 @ Apr 7 2004, 12:40 PM) QUOTE "strewn its victims from coast to coast." Really what victims would that be? <<raises hands>> <<sniffles>> I was assaulted by a giant stack of porn videos. They fell on top of me, and buried me, and smothered me, and wouldn't let me get up. Everytime I moved, more would fall on me. Some hit my head, and left bumps and bruises. <<sobs uncontrollably>> I still have nightmares about it. did you save any of them? We must carefully and thoroughly examine all the evidence of this crime. I volunteer myself for this disgusting and horrible duty. Posted by: sexkitten Apr 7 2004, 01:37 PM I'll have to dig up the name of the porn shop where this incident occurred. They probably have the same videos. Tip - There are some things you just should not attempt to do in a dark, cramped storeroom with... uh... <<looks about nervously>> ...never mind... (btw - I am joking) Posted by: Madame M Apr 7 2004, 03:05 PM QUOTE The US is a predominantly christian nation who obviously likes to spend $Billions annually feeding their lusty impulses; do they think it is some extremely wealthy immoral minority they are targeting here? Good point! Alot of fundies put all the blame on the athiests. All athiests are out buying thousands in porn a year or profiting in the billions off of their porn industry. Posted by: I Broke Free Apr 7 2004, 03:44 PM I was channel surfing a couple of days ago an ran across one of those idiot televangilist. He was screaming about the lyrics in a Hip-Hop release. He was screaming about how it is IMPOSSIBLE to escape from this vulgar, sexist, violent music. The funny thing is that I NEVER HEARD IT BEFORE! Why? Because I don't like that kind of music and find it very easy to avoid. Why can't he? I would imagine the louder you scream about something, the more likely you are to have a pile of it under you bed! Posted by: JezebelLeFey Apr 7 2004, 04:00 PM Just like it's IMPOSSIBLE to escape the vulgar, sexist, violent language of the Bible? Oh, but wait. My bad. That's Divine mandate. Posted by: woodsmoke Apr 7 2004, 07:09 PM You know Rodan, I've thought of that too, and it honestly scares me. With the way things are going lately, though, I'm optimistic that such shit wouldn't fly--at least not for long. Sooner or later (my guess would be sooner) Bush would get too power hungry and start attacking things considered basic rights even by the Christian masses, and if push comes to shove, I can see the possibility of a second revolutionary struggle on our hands. Personally, I believe success in such a legitimate struggle as that is the only way we would be able to force the government into relenquishing the massive power base it has conglomerated into since its inception. I've been sayin' it a while now, folks. The founding fathers of the United States of America gave us the best damn system for government this world has ever seen. Now it's up to us to get that back. Posted by: chrome Apr 7 2004, 09:43 PM You ever notice how violence is so popular in our society and sex is the huge taboo? We can go to war, but the former Atty. General mentions masturbation and the world is all up in arms over it. That is a seriously messd up problem. Posted by: Neil Apr 8 2004, 02:10 AM I never understood that. We could have violence on prime time television, but the very act that creates life is considered obscene. That is unbelievably backwards. This whole thing pisses me off. Why do they care? People watch porn in the privacy of their own homes. What difference does it make? Why is my privacy an issue with Bush and Ashcroft? Posted by: GodzillaBless Apr 8 2004, 05:51 AM just another lame excuse to raise our federal taxes. they create problems that heretofor didn't exist, blow it all out of proportion, and throw away taxpayer money that they could be using to feed white trash hillbilly scum sucking pig dog. Next they'll be outlawing the hard on. Posted by: PriorWorrier Apr 8 2004, 05:13 PM QUOTE (chrome @ Apr 7 2004, 09:43 PM) You ever notice how violence is so popular in our society and sex is the huge taboo? We can go to war, but the former Atty. General mentions masturbation and the world is all up in arms over it. That is a seriously messd up problem. Violence breeds fear which justifies taxing the hell out of the citizenry for military expenditures. It's simply good business. They haven't figured out how to make sex profitable for themselves yet. Posted by: PriorWorrier Apr 8 2004, 05:15 PM QUOTE (GodzillaBless @ Apr 8 2004, 05:51 AM) Next they'll be outlawing the hard on. Stiff penalties for getting a stiffie! Posted by: Madame M Apr 8 2004, 06:34 PM QUOTE They haven't figured out how to make sex profitable for themselves yet. Same way they make all other luxuries and taboos like smoking and alcohol profitable. Tax the heck out of them. of course, the thing with porn is it is accessible via the internet and out of their grasp, in a way that cigs and alcohol are not. Posted by: Casey Apr 8 2004, 08:07 PM QUOTE (PriorWorrier @ Apr 8 2004, 05:13 PM) Violence breeds fear which justifies taxing the hell out of the citizenry for military expenditures. Isn't this known in criminal circles as a "protection racket"? Casey Posted by: chrome Apr 8 2004, 08:38 PM QUOTE (PriorWorrier @ Apr 8 2004, 05:13 PM) QUOTE (chrome @ Apr 7 2004, 09:43 PM) You ever notice how violence is so popular in our society and sex is the huge taboo? We can go to war, but the former Atty. General mentions masturbation and the world is all up in arms over it. That is a seriously messd up problem. Violence breeds fear which justifies taxing the hell out of the citizenry for military expenditures. It's simply good business. They haven't figured out how to make sex profitable for themselves yet. That is partially true. They have figured out how to make it 50% profitable. The AIDS scare of the early 80's produced $$$ for the christian coalition in the same way that the gay marriage controversy is doing the same thing. This in turn gets political clout for the evil candidates. Then the evil candidate gets to dictate the tax laws. As well as resurrecting the ban on sex in our country. I realize that is a very simple explanation, but you get the idea. Always follow the money, it leads you to the truth of the matter. Sometimes it is only about money, profit. And sometimes it is about other issues we as a society object to, like invasion of privacy and free speech. Here is the other thing that just burns my ass. How come (especially in america) they complain about all of the sex on TV, but have you noticed it's only women we see naked? Naked men are still the taboo of all taboos. You can see a naked woman in all her glory anytime, but you never see a mans penis. Don't get me wrong here, I have no issue with naked women (or men for that matter), I am clearly pro sex 100%. But I find it disgusting that the media still subjugates women. Perhaps it's time we started turning the tables. We need more naked men, or at least an equal amount of objectification here. Women are not objects and if we are going to allow them to be, then men need to be treated the same way. Equal treatment all around! Of course the xian answer is no sex and more violence... Powered by Invision Power Board (http://www.invisionboard.com) © Invision Power Services (http://www.invisionpower.com) |