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Posted by: The Acid Washed Messiah Oct 29 2004, 07:20 AM
I use the word, "Gay" a lot.

Para examplés,

"Dude, Van Helsing was fucking gay."

"Quit being so fucking gay."

"Seriously gay."

"Why are you being such a gay little bitch?"

"Gayest. Thing. Ever."

<someone says something stupid> "Gay."

"This is gayer than a bunch of gay men having gay sex."

And so forth.

Now, I'm not going to change how I talk, but I'm curious... does this re-hijacking of a hijacked word bother you?

"Gay" in today's vernacular (at least as I use it), has come to stand in for any generalized term of abuse or for the words, "stupid," "bad," "lame," or anything else that I could possibly want it to mean.

It's replaced "crap" as my favorite word ever, and I really like saying crap (it makes my mouth feel good!).

So anyway, if you're gay (read: homosexual), does hearing the word "gay" refer to a bad movie bug you? Or, if you're straight, but one of those mamby-pamby, gotta-have-a-cause, politically-correct fucktards; does it bother you that someone somewhere may be bothered by my use of the word "gay" to refer to you even though you don't smoke the meatpole?



Posted by: fuct> Oct 29 2004, 07:54 AM
I use the word "gay" a lot and I'm not a gaybasher. I don't think a gay person should take offense to it unless offense is intended. I've even said stuff like"dude,
that song is reallly faggy". Again not to to bash homosexuals. I think youve hit
the nail on the head, ACM. LeslieLook.gif

Posted by: BigToe Oct 29 2004, 08:47 AM
dude you're gay.

Posted by: rainyday8169 Oct 29 2004, 08:54 AM
so fucking gay

Posted by: rainyday8169 Oct 29 2004, 08:55 AM
wait.........


smoke the meatpole?????


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Posted by: The Acid Washed Messiah Oct 29 2004, 09:48 AM
It's an American Indian deed-name. Ver' lucky to be named "Smokes the Meatpole."

Only "One Man Throwing a Bucket of Water on Two Dogs" is considered more lucky... especially for the second born in a set of twins.

Usually though, the first twin isn't so lucky. wicked.gif

Posted by: rainyday8169 Oct 29 2004, 09:52 AM
gay

Posted by: phoenix Oct 29 2004, 04:45 PM
Wendyshrug.gif i dislike the term...

Posted by: rainyday8169 Oct 29 2004, 05:08 PM
QUOTE (phoenix @ Oct 29 2004, 04:45 PM)
Wendyshrug.gif i dislike the term...

Don't use it then


Why dont you like it?
You think its offensive?
to who?
you?

Posted by: Shadfox Oct 29 2004, 05:12 PM
Even though using "gay" in that way is obviously derogatory, "inarticulate" is the first word that comes to my mind.

Do you guys say, "that's Jewish!" too? That's getting pretty popular.

Posted by: rainyday8169 Oct 29 2004, 05:20 PM
I asked my super gay brother about this
He said he isnt offended
He also said acid is probably gay

Posted by: Shadfox Oct 29 2004, 05:24 PM
I don't think it's that big of a deal anymore. But, still, it isn't hard to figure out how the term came into use.

Posted by: ficino Oct 29 2004, 05:59 PM
I'm gay, and I find it offensive when "gay" is used as a put-down. I don't like it when a word that refers to my category of people is used as a general pejorative, as though there's something wrong with being gay. If "gay" is used to refer to a kind of "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy" fashion sense, then I ignore it because I have no fashion sense at all. Ken's and my living room is decorated with old pizza boxes and beer cans (not... but not fashionable either).

Posted by: rainyday8169 Oct 29 2004, 06:36 PM
I think people take political correctness too far
My bro is gay
I was with him while he was wearing a t-shirt that said "FAGGOT" on it
I doubt he was trying to insult anyone by that but of course some overly sensitive pussy hadda get all bent outa shape and actually tossed us outa his gay store
Later this man found out I wasnt the girlfriend but the sister and my brother was actually gay
all of the sudden it was OK that he was wearing that shirt.

PS
Pizza boxes and beer cans can be very sexy

Posted by: ficino Oct 29 2004, 06:54 PM
What does 8169 stand for?

Posted by: Shadfox Oct 29 2004, 06:57 PM
There's gays that are comfortable with it, and others who aren't. Those who aren't certainly have a right to be offended. I know cultural insensitivity is becoming a fashionable fad today because of the PC stuff getting out of control. Still, it's undeniable the word is used in a context of depreciation. Gay = effete = bad.

I'm one of those who may think less of one's intelligence for using the word that way, but I don't think it implies the person is a gay basher by default.

The new "Jewish" context angers me more for some reason and I'm not even Jewish.

Posted by: TruthWarrior Oct 29 2004, 07:15 PM
Me and my friend used to say "that's gay" tons of times when we were teenagers. He later came out and admitted he was gay. FrogsToadBigGrin.gif

Posted by: rainyday8169 Oct 29 2004, 07:27 PM
in case you didnt know
the word has more than one meaning

gay:
1. having or showing a merry, lively mood: gay spirits.
2. bright or showy: gay colors.
3. given to or abounding in social or other pleasures: a gay social season.
4. licentious; dissipated; wanton: a wild, gay life.



Posted by: Mo Biggsley Oct 29 2004, 07:39 PM
Gay means happy.

As a happy person, I find it offensive that gay is being used to describe things that you feel are stupid.

I am not stupid.

I'm happy.

Yay.

Posted by: Asimov Oct 29 2004, 08:46 PM
QUOTE (The Acid Washed Messiah @ Oct 29 2004, 07:20 AM)
I use the word, "Gay" a lot.

Para examplés,

"Dude, Van Helsing was fucking gay."

"Quit being so fucking gay."

"Seriously gay."

"Why are you being such a gay little bitch?"

"Gayest. Thing. Ever."

<someone says something stupid> "Gay."

"This is gayer than a bunch of gay men having gay sex."

And so forth.

Now, I'm not going to change how I talk, but I'm curious... does this re-hijacking of a hijacked word bother you?

"Gay" in today's vernacular (at least as I use it), has come to stand in for any generalized term of abuse or for the words, "stupid," "bad," "lame," or anything else that I could possibly want it to mean.

It's replaced "crap" as my favorite word ever, and I really like saying crap (it makes my mouth feel good!).

So anyway, if you're gay (read: homosexual), does hearing the word "gay" refer to a bad movie bug you? Or, if you're straight, but one of those mamby-pamby, gotta-have-a-cause, politically-correct fucktards; does it bother you that someone somewhere may be bothered by my use of the word "gay" to refer to you even though you don't smoke the meatpole?

Van Helsin was not fucking gay. It was awesome.

I think it's all about the context you use the word in that makes it derogatory or not.

Posted by: Fweethawt Oct 29 2004, 09:36 PM
QUOTE (ficino @ Oct 29 2004, 10:54 PM)
What does 8169 stand for?

It stands for her record number of
post-counts within a 24 hour period.

So far, nobody has come close to
beating it. Wendyshrug.gif


Isn't that sick?

Posted by: rainyday8169 Oct 30 2004, 06:51 AM
ficino
QUOTE
What does 8169 stand for?


August 1st 1969
8/1/69
the day I was born

And Fwee,
You should be happy to know that I'll be off home detentin and in Florida in less than a week so I wont be sitting here in front of my computer all day every day and you will have plenty of time to surpass my post count

Posted by: Shadfox Oct 30 2004, 06:53 AM
Why do you have in house detention? (I can't imagine it's for any good reason.)

Posted by: rainyday8169 Oct 30 2004, 07:03 AM
QUOTE (Shadfox @ Oct 30 2004, 06:53 AM)
Why do you have in house detention? (I can't imagine it's for any good reason.)

Depends on what you call a "good reason"

I allowed somene to drive my car knowing it was uninsured

30 days

2 in the county jail
28 days home monitoring


I have a record
I jay walked in Seattle 19 times
I swam naked in a park after dark when the sign clearly stated that the park closed at dusk
I once walked home from work in an area that was known for prostitution
I drank a beer on my 16th birthday
and I drove a car without a lisence

This last offense
Letting someone drive my uninsured car
well the judge had had just about enough of my dangerous criminal behavior and decided society needed to be protected from me




Posted by: LadyAttis Oct 30 2004, 07:13 AM
Wow you're sooooooooooooooooooooo very dangerous (NOT)...[shudders and runs away] She's a mad woman, she thinks for herself!!!!!

-- Bridget

Posted by: Cerise Oct 30 2004, 10:14 AM
If you can't say something nice, then eventually someone will come around and beat your ass for being an offensive jerk is what I always say.

You can use whatever words you like, just don't act all surprised one day someone takes offense and clocks you for them.

I think we like to forget that words and language do have power. A lot of power. So choose your words carefully. It's called being smart, not being PC.

QUOTE
Or, if you're straight, but one of those mamby-pamby, gotta-have-a-cause, politically-correct fucktards


So derogatory lanuage is only supposed to bother me if it's directed at me? Like I can't be offended by people calling things "gay" but if some moron says something like "that test raped me yesterday" I can get upset? Is that it?


Posted by: rainyday8169 Oct 30 2004, 10:19 AM
Flicks boogers at Cerise


Lighten the fuck up girl!



Posted by: Cerise Oct 30 2004, 10:26 AM
No. *sticks tongue out at rainy and flicks boogers back*

Posted by: rainyday8169 Oct 30 2004, 10:30 AM
So so silly

Posted by: ~Dhampir:~ Oct 30 2004, 11:04 AM
I can say gay, but for some reason, I can't find an instance where I'm comfortable saying faggot. Wendyshrug.gif

Posted by: Mo Biggsley Oct 30 2004, 11:40 AM
in most countries, a fag is a cigarette and a faggot is a pack of cigarettes

Posted by: rainyday8169 Oct 30 2004, 11:48 AM
thats gay

Posted by: Mo Biggsley Oct 30 2004, 12:08 PM
so gay

Posted by: LloydDobler Oct 30 2004, 12:09 PM
...

Posted by: rainyday8169 Oct 30 2004, 12:14 PM
LOL
K.o.P.! you have pics of Richard Simmons on yer computer!!


now THAT is gay

Posted by: I Broke Free Oct 30 2004, 04:55 PM
QUOTE (fuct> @ Oct 29 2004, 11:54 AM)
I don't think a gay person should take offense to it unless offense is intended.

As a gay person I can honestly say that I am not offended by people using the word "gay" to denote something as stupid or asinine. I am only offended by people who deliberately try to offend me.

I have much better things to do with my time than badger people over whether a word is appropriate or not. WendyDoh.gif

Posted by: rainyday8169 Oct 30 2004, 06:19 PM
yer so sensible IBF FrogsToadBigGrin.gif

Posted by: Fweethawt Oct 30 2004, 07:22 PM
QUOTE (rainyday8169 @ Oct 30 2004, 10:51 AM)
August 1st 1969
8/1/69
the day I was born

And Fwee,
You should be happy to know that I'll be off home detentin and in Florida in less than a week so I wont be sitting here in front of my computer all day every day and you will have plenty of time to surpass my post count

WendyDoh.gif

Actually, where I come from, the little kiddies of today use the word "sick" in the same way that the kiddies of the past used the words "cool", "groovy", or "far-out". Wendyshrug.gif

Does anyone remember "foodah!"?

(No wonder we rub each other the wrong way, Rainy. We're both Leo's, and we were born 17 days apart.)

Of course, those 17 days makes you much-much older than me.... GONZ9729CustomImage1539775.gif

Posted by: Fweethawt Oct 30 2004, 07:23 PM
QUOTE (rainyday8169 @ Oct 30 2004, 10:19 PM)
yer so sensible IBF FrogsToadBigGrin.gif

He's gay too! woohoo.gif

FrogsToadBigGrin.gif

Posted by: rainyday8169 Oct 31 2004, 06:10 AM
No shit?

Gay?

Ya dont say?

Well I just think that is just neat

IBF is gay

I guess I gotta scratch him off my "to do" list now



Posted by: jjacksonRIAB Oct 31 2004, 12:29 PM
I really don't give a shit. I will say though that people who tell me how to talk annoy me a shitload more than people who talk like jackasses. It's just the way I'm wired. I will tolerate your actions or words, but I will not tolerate a domineering or condescending attitude.

I'm nobody's bitch.

Posted by: Cerise Oct 31 2004, 03:40 PM
mannerless yanks FrogsToadBigGrin.gif

Y'all never had Ms. Barna the etiquette teacher glaring at you if you dared give a hint of impudence.

Isn't anybody out there a fellow English Major? Doesn't anybody here agree that words are important and powerful? Way to make my degree look like a worthless piece of paper guys. I hate you all. KatieHmm.gif

Posted by: I Broke Free Oct 31 2004, 05:54 PM
QUOTE (rainyday8169 @ Oct 31 2004, 09:10 AM)
No shit?

Gay?

Ya dont say?

Well I just think that is just neat

IBF is gay

I guess I gotta scratch him off my "to do" list now

I hope that was not too much of a shock for you Rainy? lmao_99.gif

Next time I will try and come out of the closet in stages.


Seriously though, I use the word "gay" in the same way Eric Cartman on South Park does all the time. It's just a word. People are still upset they can't use it for being "happy" anymore. Why should I care that others have picked it up for something else.

People who get pissed off over words are totally gay...

Posted by: REBOOT Oct 31 2004, 08:26 PM
QUOTE
No shit?

Gay?

Ya dont say?

Well I just think that is just neat

IBF is gay

I guess I gotta scratch him off my "to do" list now


Don't worry IBF, me and my smegma have been off Rainy's 'to do' list for quite a while lmao_99.gif lmao_99.gif lmao_99.gif

Posted by: Reach Nov 1 2004, 04:28 AM
QUOTE (Cerise @ Oct 31 2004, 03:40 PM)
Isn't anybody out there a fellow English Major? Doesn't anybody here agree that words are important and powerful? Way to make my degree look like a worthless piece of paper guys. I hate you all. KatieHmm.gif

I agree, Cerise, that words are important and powerful. The use of them, for the thoughts they convey, can produce varied results: death, destruction, damage, neutrality, positive reinforcement, growth, life and every other thing in between.

I try to choose my words carefully, having seen the pain and heartbreak that have come about by the use of casual words spoken by insensitive people. I respect words and I try to choose them with care. It's a matter of principle for me. I like being understood.

It is not my position to judge the strengths and weaknesses of others and I've certainly no interest in focusing a lot of attention on determining which words will offend or injure, but I do have it within my power to not inflict further suffering by my words. Most of the time, I'm successful at that. I believe that communication is vital and so I take my words seriously. Some people may think I am too serious about words and too much of a literalist; so be it. On the other hand, this website is a powerful testimony to the power of words and the damage and destruction they have wielded, across the centuries and throughout many of our lives.

Yes, Cerise, words are powerful.

Reach

Posted by: REBOOT Nov 1 2004, 06:00 AM
http://www.contactpakistan.com/Communitylibrary/youngPakistanis/article005.htm

Cerise, Syeda Mehrunnisa seems to think so FrogsToadBigGrin.gif

Posted by: I Broke Free Nov 1 2004, 06:41 AM
QUOTE (Reach @ Nov 1 2004, 07:28 AM)

I try to choose my words carefully, having seen the pain and heartbreak that have come about by the use of casual words spoken by insensitive people. I respect words and I try to choose them with care. It's a matter of principle for me. I like being understood.


Words are indeed very powerful, but the power lies with both the speaker and the listener. I also try and choose my words very carefully when I am sending an important message that I want to convey with clarity. However I do get annoyed at people who I know: 1)Did understand the message 2) Recognize that no insult was intended, 3) But take a kind of perverse pleasure at playing the victim.



Posted by: Reach Nov 1 2004, 06:50 AM
QUOTE (I Broke Free @ Nov 1 2004, 06:41 AM)
However I do get annoyed at people who I know: 1)Did understand the message 2) Recognize that no insult was intended, 3) But take a kind of perverse pleasure at playing the victim.

Agreed, IBF. It's unfortunate that some people (listeners) intentionally choose to take another's words in the most offensive mode possible. They seem to thrive on their victimhood, having adopted the martyr's syndrome. Are they in search of attention and validation? Wendyloser.gif


Posted by: LloydDobler Nov 1 2004, 10:58 AM
What's wrong with seeking attention and validation? Are you trying to invalidate me? You are so insensitive to the attention and validation seeking readers of this board! I hate you all! I'm never coming back to this board again!




Posted by: notblindedbytheblight Nov 1 2004, 02:46 PM
QUOTE (LloydDobler @ Nov 1 2004, 10:58 AM)
What's wrong with seeking attention and validation? Are you trying to invalidate me? You are so insensitive to the attention and validation seeking readers of this board! I hate you all! I'm never coming back to this board again!

VOGT6223CustomImage8223074.gif

Posted by: MalaInSe Nov 1 2004, 02:48 PM
QUOTE (notblindedbytheblight @ Nov 1 2004, 02:46 PM)
QUOTE (LloydDobler @ Nov 1 2004, 10:58 AM)
What's wrong with seeking attention and validation?  Are you trying to invalidate me?  You are so insensitive to the attention and validation seeking readers of this board!  I hate you all!  I'm never coming back to this board again!

VOGT6223CustomImage8223074.gif

Watch out! Remember that Lloyd has that "pornocchio" thing.

Ren

Posted by: notblindedbytheblight Nov 1 2004, 02:51 PM
QUOTE (MalaInSe @ Nov 1 2004, 02:48 PM)
QUOTE (notblindedbytheblight @ Nov 1 2004, 02:46 PM)
QUOTE (LloydDobler @ Nov 1 2004, 10:58 AM)
What's wrong with seeking attention and validation?  Are you trying to invalidate me?  You are so insensitive to the attention and validation seeking readers of this board!  I hate you all!  I'm never coming back to this board again!

VOGT6223CustomImage8223074.gif

Watch out! Remember that Lloyd has that "pornocchio" thing.

Ren

HA! lmao_99.gif

Shit that was funny!

Posted by: Cerise Nov 1 2004, 02:51 PM
QUOTE (MalaInSe @ Nov 1 2004, 02:48 PM)
QUOTE (notblindedbytheblight @ Nov 1 2004, 02:46 PM)
QUOTE (LloydDobler @ Nov 1 2004, 10:58 AM)
What's wrong with seeking attention and validation?  Are you trying to invalidate me?  You are so insensitive to the attention and validation seeking readers of this board!  I hate you all!  I'm never coming back to this board again!

VOGT6223CustomImage8223074.gif

Watch out! Remember that Lloyd has that "pornocchio" thing.

Ren

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lmao_99.gif

Posted by: LloydDobler Nov 1 2004, 02:52 PM
!@!%!#!

Posted by: notblindedbytheblight Nov 1 2004, 02:57 PM
Back to the topic...what if your name is Gay?

Posted by: sexkitten Nov 1 2004, 03:20 PM
I agree with Cerise, Reach, IBF, and Jjackson all at the same time.

Words do have power, and it pays to choose them and use them carefully, to communicate clearly and to avoid unintended insult and misunderstanding.

At the same time, declaring certain words now and forever taboo often gives the word more power than it had before, creates a victim mentality on top of legitimate hurt from the insult, and produces a climate of thought policing (as words form our thoughts, and eliminating words can eliminate thought.

An individual person should choose their words carefully, and keep in mind when they use a word flippantly what that says about them. An individual word should not be made off-limits for the choosing.

Posted by: Cerise Nov 1 2004, 03:22 PM
QUOTE (notblindedbytheblight @ Nov 1 2004, 02:57 PM)
Back to the topic...what if your name is Gay?

Isn't it spelt "Gaye"?

Posted by: rainyday8169 Nov 1 2004, 06:04 PM
QUOTE (jjacksonRIAB @ Oct 31 2004, 12:29 PM)
I really don't give a shit. I will say though that people who tell me how to talk annoy me a shitload more than people who talk like jackasses. It's just the way I'm wired. I will tolerate your actions or words, but I will not tolerate a domineering or condescending attitude.

I'm nobody's bitch.

My feelings exactly

Posted by: rainyday8169 Nov 1 2004, 06:08 PM
Maybe in Canada its Gaye but here its Gay
I know a 92 year old man named Gay
I dont think he's gay tho
Probably only because hes too old to have a sexual preference

Posted by: Iconoclastithon Nov 1 2004, 06:26 PM
this thread is so fucking gay FrogsToadBigGrin.gif

Posted by: rainyday8169 Nov 1 2004, 06:58 PM
Isnt it tho

Posted by: Mr. Neil Nov 1 2004, 07:03 PM
I am so offended by this thread!!!!!!11





...no I'm not. lmao_99.gif

Posted by: sexkitten Nov 1 2004, 08:58 PM
QUOTE (Mr. Neil @ Nov 1 2004, 07:03 PM)
I am so offended by this thread!!!!!!11





...no I'm not. lmao_99.gif

{fruity voice} Neil, that was **so** gay! {/end fruity voice}

Posted by: Mr. Neil Nov 1 2004, 09:10 PM
I use the word "gay" as a negative all the time. To me, it's just a word.

Posted by: rainyday8169 Nov 1 2004, 09:32 PM
Notice how the people that are actually gay dont seem offended ?
I think those of you who are offended just look for any reason to be offended
Which is of course GAY

Posted by: Mr. Neil Nov 1 2004, 09:45 PM
That's true. The people who get the most offended are the really high-strung straight people. I've had women get all pissy with me like, "I know someone who's gay, and I don't appreciate you using the word 'gay' as a negative term!"

And my response is, "Are they cute?"

Posted by: Fweethawt Nov 2 2004, 12:10 AM
Neil, you're so gay!

Well,,, not really but, yeah, in this case, you are.

Sometimes I'm gay.

SHIT!

What am I saying?? Wendybanghead.gif

Everybody is gay occasionally. Wendyshrug.gif

Yeah, this thread is really gay. WendyDoh.gif

Not really, but in a way, it is. Wendyshrug.gif

Stop fuckin' with my mind Neil..... Wendytwitch.gif

Leave me alone. KatieHmm.gif

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Posted by: Mr. Neil Nov 2 2004, 12:32 AM
Hey, it's not my fault men are hot.

At least I don't have a lisp or anything fruity like that. Aside from the whole liking-men part, I actually behave quite normally. Mmmm.. men... wub.gif

Plus there are times when I'm not being gay at all. Like when I dream about my future wife Eliza Dushku.

Posted by: Fweethawt Nov 2 2004, 12:39 AM

I think men are hot too!

98.6 degrees ain't nothin' to sneeze at, ya'know. FrogsToadBigGrin.gif

I don't have a lisp either. I speak quite clearly most of the time.

Aside from random acts of silliness, I actually behave quite normally also.

Then there are times when I'm not gay too. I don't like being around other people, and they don't like being around me when I'm in one of those moods. Wendyshrug.gif

GONZ9729CustomImage1539775.gif


Posted by: Mr. Neil Nov 2 2004, 01:23 AM
Have you seen Manhunt on Bravo?

http://www.bravotv.com/Manhunt/

Oooooh-ho-ho-ho boy! wub.gif

Posted by: Fweethawt Nov 2 2004, 01:40 AM
Now those men are definitely hot!

If they weren't, I'm sure that they would have more clothes on than that. GONZ9729CustomImage1539775.gif

The host of the show however, is definitely-definitely hot!


Posted by: rainyday8169 Nov 2 2004, 05:06 AM
I wish porn stars looked like the guys from Manhunt


Posted by: Mr. Neil Nov 2 2004, 05:10 AM
See? I know the shit. I'm the gay bait pimp, dude.

Posted by: Cerise Nov 2 2004, 05:20 AM
QUOTE (rainyday8169 @ Nov 1 2004, 06:08 PM)
Maybe in Canada its Gaye but here its Gay
I know a 92 year old man named Gay
I dont think he's gay tho
Probably only because hes too old to have a sexual preference

The only people I know named "Gaye" were female.

I'm only occasionally gay. Does that mean I only get to be occasionally offended?

Posted by: rainyday8169 Nov 2 2004, 05:22 AM
I think yer excused because yer Canadian

Posted by: LadyAttis Nov 2 2004, 07:46 AM
Hey I'm queer, gay sucks so there! Queers r00l!!!

-- Bridget

Posted by: rainyday8169 Nov 2 2004, 07:54 AM
I once agreed to play a game with the Venice High School varsity football team
They said the game was called smear the queer
They told me to hold the ball, run with it and not let it go no matter what happened
That was a mean trick
Those guys were gay

Posted by: The Acid Washed Messiah Nov 2 2004, 08:11 AM
QUOTE (Cerise @ Oct 30 2004, 10:14 AM)
If you can't say something nice, then eventually someone will come around and beat your ass for being an offensive jerk is what I always say.

You can use whatever words you like, just don't act all surprised one day someone takes offense and clocks you for them.

I think we like to forget that words and language do have power.  A lot of power.  So choose your words carefully.  It's called being smart, not being PC.

QUOTE
Or, if you're straight, but one of those mamby-pamby, gotta-have-a-cause, politically-correct fucktards


So derogatory lanuage is only supposed to bother me if it's directed at me? Like I can't be offended by people calling things "gay" but if some moron says something like "that test raped me yesterday" I can get upset? Is that it?

There's something very Canadian about your post, Cerise.

I use that phrase a lot too. wicked.gif

PS-
1. I'm way too big a guy to get clocked very often.
2. I was an English major, but generally pull the stick out of my ass when speaking casually. lmao_99.gif

Posted by: LadyAttis Nov 2 2004, 08:19 AM
You get clocked as what? a GRRL? ;)

-- Bridget

Posted by: rainyday8169 Nov 2 2004, 08:21 AM
QUOTE
I was an English major, but generally pull the stick out of my ass when speaking casually.



I love this statement
LOVE it!

Posted by: notblindedbytheblight Nov 2 2004, 12:18 PM
I thought gay was the politically correct way to describe someone who is gay?

I love Will & Grace and I tell my daughter that they are gay instead of homosexual and I explain to her that it's okay that they are gay.

Should I be using a different word?

Posted by: rainyday8169 Nov 2 2004, 12:21 PM
no
my brother is gay
my kids know he's gay
there is nothing wrong with that word
it just happens to have many meanings

Posted by: Mr. Neil Nov 2 2004, 12:41 PM
QUOTE (notblindedbytheblight @ Nov 2 2004, 03:18 PM)
Should I be using a different word?

Nah... We all use that word for a variety of reasons. I use it in both positive and negative ways. I don't think about it. I don't take it personally when other people use it. It's like the words honky or cracker. Those words don't bother me. I even use those words in jest.

The thing is, I don't believe in "bad words". I'll be conservative about which words I use in certain company, but in general, I think it's silly to get upset about it. I know for a fact that when my friends say "That's gay", they don't mean me.
Words are not bad. Intentions can be bad. Actions can be bad. Words are just words.

Posted by: The Acid Washed Messiah Nov 2 2004, 12:43 PM
QUOTE (notblindedbytheblight @ Nov 2 2004, 12:18 PM)
I thought gay was the politically correct way to describe someone who is gay?

I love Will & Grace and I tell my daughter that they are gay instead of homosexual and I explain to her that it's okay that they are gay.

Should I be using a different word?

You should just say that some men smoke meatpoles and play in the mud. You can also say that some women mow grass and digitize pink. It will all become clear to your children when they're old enough for it to matter.

Or you can just continue using, "gay."

It's not like I single-handedly broke the word for everyone.

That would just be gay.

Posted by: notblindedbytheblight Nov 2 2004, 12:49 PM
QUOTE (The Acid Washed Messiah @ Nov 2 2004, 12:43 PM)
QUOTE (notblindedbytheblight @ Nov 2 2004, 12:18 PM)
I thought gay was the politically correct way to describe someone who is gay? 

I love Will & Grace and I tell my daughter that they are gay instead of homosexual and I explain to her that it's okay that they are gay.

Should I be using a different word?

You should just say that some men smoke meatpoles and play in the mud. You can also say that some women mow grass and digitize pink. It will all become clear to your children when they're old enough for it to matter.

Or you can just continue using, "gay."

It's not like I single-handedly broke the word for everyone.

That would just be gay.

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Posted by: erik the awful Nov 2 2004, 01:03 PM
Pretty soon the word "Gay" will be as versatile as the word "Fuck!"

Then everybody who wants to be offended can have another reason to be offended.

If you want to be offended, I can help. I'm a equal opportunity offender.


Posted by: Reach Nov 2 2004, 01:13 PM
QUOTE (Mr. Neil @ Nov 2 2004, 12:41 PM)
...I'll be conservative about which words I use in certain company, but in general, I think it's silly to get upset about it. I know for a fact that when my friends say "That's gay", they don't mean me.

That's it right there. There clearly is a distinction between the words we comfortably use among our friends and those we use in other settings, like one's place of employment, perhaps.

Likewise, my choice to be "conservative about which words I use in certain company" is a matter of prudence, not a matter of believing I need to tiptoe around those who are overly sensitive.

Posted by: The Acid Washed Messiah Nov 2 2004, 01:15 PM
Ooh! Ooh! Offend me!

I'm a 6'1", 270lb, straight, Democrat, college-educated, Hispanic male with a hot girlfriend and a nice car.

Go!

Posted by: rainyday8169 Nov 2 2004, 01:48 PM
Too many people look for things to be offended over


Acid,
Define "nice car" and I'll think about offending you

Posted by: The Acid Washed Messiah Nov 2 2004, 01:50 PM
I've got a late model, gas-guzzling, American-made SUV.

Okaaaaaay.... GO!

Posted by: The Acid Washed Messiah Nov 2 2004, 01:52 PM
I could maybe put gun racks or something in it?

Mostly I just carry lots and lots of gaming books and other shit though.

Oh yeah, I forgot about that! I'm also play role-playing games.

Go!

Posted by: rainyday8169 Nov 2 2004, 01:54 PM
RPG's


GAY

Posted by: Cerise Nov 2 2004, 04:47 PM
QUOTE (rainyday8169 @ Nov 2 2004, 05:22 AM)
I think yer excused because yer Canadian

I think I should start using that excuse for everything.

"sorry, can't pay my parking tickets! I'm Canadian!"

"sorry, my sensitivity apparently is = to having a stick up my ass. Must be 'cause I'm Canadian!"

"sorry, I don't think you're funny. You must excuse me, I have no sense of humour for I am Canadian."

Do you think they would buy it?

Posted by: rainyday8169 Nov 2 2004, 04:50 PM
they will buy it if you use those Canadian manners for sure

Posted by: Cerise Nov 2 2004, 05:02 PM
QUOTE (rainyday8169 @ Nov 2 2004, 04:50 PM)
they will buy it if you use those Canadian manners for sure

for those that aren't canuk-savy, Canadian manners simply means that when you tell someone to fuck off, you say "please" first.

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Posted by: rainyday8169 Nov 2 2004, 05:24 PM
Canadians are so cute
Gotta love em

Posted by: Fweethawt Nov 2 2004, 10:07 PM
QUOTE (rainyday8169 @ Nov 2 2004, 09:24 PM)
Canadians are so cute
Gotta love em

I've met plenty of Canadians in real life....

None of them were anywhere near as
cute and lovable as Cerise.


I know, that sounded gay, didn't it? WendyDoh.gif

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Posted by: rainyday8169 Nov 3 2004, 04:45 AM
gay
yup

Posted by: The Acid Washed Messiah Nov 3 2004, 09:15 AM
Actually, I'm thinking of moving to Canada now. I've already got friends in Nova Scotia.

Posted by: rainyday8169 Nov 3 2004, 09:23 AM
Its very cold there

Posted by: The Acid Washed Messiah Nov 3 2004, 11:54 AM
So?

I can always buy more clothes.

Plus I'm naturally insulated. wicked.gif

Posted by: rainyday8169 Nov 3 2004, 11:58 AM
LMAO @ Naturally insulated!!!

Posted by: MonkeyBoy Nov 27 2004, 03:52 PM
Acid -
"smoke the meatpole?"

I almost shot Mountain Dew out of my nose when I read that!

I use the term 'gay' in the way that you and most people here do, and I have let it slip around my gay friends; they use it in the same way. It's just a slang word meaing lame or stupid, IMO.

What's really gay is the fact that I am at work at 6:52 PM on a Saturday night and I have to be here until 9!

So very gay....

Posted by: Rhodacat Nov 27 2004, 07:21 PM
Not to change the subject but Mr. acid I love to watch the picture you have. It is hypnotic!!! Does this prove that I am not Gay? (Got any more?)

Posted by: MonkeyBoy Nov 30 2004, 05:44 AM
QUOTE (David Mauldin @ Nov 27 2004, 10:21 PM)
Not to change the subject but Mr. acid I love to watch the picture you have. It is hypnotic!!! Does this prove that I am not Gay? (Got any more?)

Sure, it's nice and bouncy; but it looks like they may be hurting the poor girl.
Those be some massive bongos.

Posted by: The Acid Washed Messiah Dec 6 2004, 07:54 AM
If you'd like more pics of her, her name is Anna Ohura.

Posted by: noendinsight Dec 7 2004, 10:08 AM
I don't like saying "oh that's so gay" - I think that's offensive to people who are homosexuals. I don't think its appropriate. But you know what they say "To each his own."

Posted by: Java Dec 7 2004, 08:50 PM
I use gay as a common insult but not much in public, mostly with my friends who know I'm bi and are bi.

Also, very very occasioally I use faggot, but I have a different definition than most.

Ever seen the new Dawn of the Dead?

The rich guy who says "Well, dead-ish" and owns the yacht?

He's my definition of a fag. And he's on-camera straight.

Posted by: JP1283 Jan 20 2005, 10:39 PM
I know this is an old thread, but what the hell.

When the Presidential race my mom called John Kerry a faggot in front of me (I'm gay). And I said to her "I don't give a FUCK what you think about John Kerry or anybody else, you NEVER use that word in my presence EVER again!" And she said "Oh, I didn't mean it like that." I HATE that word. When people say that something is "gay" it really irritates me, but when someone uses that word I get infuriated.

QUOTE
Ever seen the new Dawn of the Dead?

The rich guy who says "Well, dead-ish" and owns the yacht?

He's my definition of a fag. And he's on-camera straight.


I wouldn't call him a fag, but if he's gay I wouldn't mind doin him! GONZ9729CustomImage1539775.gif

Posted by: Anomalie Jan 21 2005, 08:07 PM
Faggot is a really nasty word , agreed.

Notice how none of the terms are really directed at lesbians. Most guys would refer to them as 'cool' woohoo.gif !

Do you guys in the US describe things as being 'bent'? Other words used in the UK are 'puff' or 'puffter', bum bandit, shirt-lifter and nob jockey. My personal creations are 'playing the meat flute' , 'putting in the rough' and 'smoking a skin joint' lmao_99.gif

Are there any terms used by the gay community to describe straight people (straight guys especailly, apart from jerk!) There must be stuff like "That is sooo straight" meaning it is a bit basic and lacking in style!!!

Posted by: JP1283 Jan 21 2005, 08:23 PM
I call straight people "straights."

Posted by: Java Jan 22 2005, 09:45 AM
QUOTE (JP1283 @ Jan 21 2005, 01:39 AM)
I know this is an old thread, but what the hell.

When the Presidential race my mom called John Kerry a faggot in front of me (I'm gay). And I said to her "I don't give a FUCK what you think about John Kerry or anybody else, you NEVER use that word in my presence EVER again!" And she said "Oh, I didn't mean it like that." I HATE that word. When people say that something is "gay" it really irritates me, but when someone uses that word I get infuriated.

QUOTE
Ever seen the new Dawn of the Dead?

The rich guy who says "Well, dead-ish" and owns the yacht?

He's my definition of a fag. And he's on-camera straight.


I wouldn't call him a fag, but if he's gay I wouldn't mind doin him! GONZ9729CustomImage1539775.gif

I mean, fag to me means ... well, it means the kind of snobby uncaring assholes that were gay at my high school ... but without the gay part. If someone called a gay friend a fag they'd be bleeding on the pavement. I get VEWWY protective of my friends. FrogsToadBigGrin.gif

Posted by: GreyGirl Jan 22 2005, 09:47 AM
My insults tend to be pretty long-winded. For example: "That is so gay. And not in the cool homosexual way. In the way that means you suck. Because that is so incredibly gay."

Posted by: Mr. Neil Jan 22 2005, 11:27 AM
QUOTE (JP1283 @ Jan 21 2005, 11:23 PM)
I call straight people "straights."

I once used "hetero" as an insult. I think it was in reference to an episode of King Of The Hill.

Posted by: JP1283 Jan 23 2005, 10:44 AM
QUOTE
I once used "hetero" as an insult. I think it was in reference to an episode of King Of The Hill.


I sometimes tell people I'm "heterophobic." I got that off of Queer as Folk.

Posted by: Fweethawt Jan 23 2005, 07:00 PM
I have an acquaintance of mine whose sister is homosexual.

She calls heterosexuals, 'Breeders'.

Posted by: Mo Biggsley Jan 25 2005, 01:07 PM
This thread is so gay.

Posted by: The Acid Washed Messiah Jan 25 2005, 01:23 PM
Quit gaying on people and let them post.

Posted by: Mo Biggsley Jan 25 2005, 01:36 PM
they post post all they want. i was calling your theme gay.

Posted by: Mo Biggsley Jan 25 2005, 01:38 PM
by gay, i mean happy.


and by happy, i mean homosexual.

Posted by: The Acid Washed Messiah Jan 25 2005, 01:40 PM
And by homosexual, did you mean fabulous?

Posted by: Mo Biggsley Jan 25 2005, 01:45 PM
Indeed. This is a fabulous thread.

Posted by: damnitbouy Jan 26 2005, 11:56 PM
QUOTE
So anyway, if you're gay (read: homosexual), does hearing the word "gay" refer to a bad movie bug you? Or, if you're straight, but one of those mamby-pamby, gotta-have-a-cause, politically-correct fucktards; does it bother you that someone somewhere may be bothered by my use of the word "gay" to refer to you even though you don't smoke the meatpole?


Just two questions, dude.

1. Do you want to beat my ass?

2. Do you care if I get married?

If your answer is NO to both, it's cool.

Actually, that question was pretty gay. woohoo.gif

Posted by: Mo Biggsley Jan 27 2005, 04:45 AM
That question was fabulous!

Posted by: The Acid Washed Messiah Jan 27 2005, 06:42 AM
QUOTE (damnitbouy @ Jan 26 2005, 11:56 PM)
QUOTE
So anyway, if you're gay (read: homosexual), does hearing the word "gay" refer to a bad movie bug you? Or, if you're straight, but one of those mamby-pamby, gotta-have-a-cause, politically-correct fucktards; does it bother you that someone somewhere may be bothered by my use of the word "gay" to refer to you even though you don't smoke the meatpole?


Just two questions, dude.

1. Do you want to beat my ass?

2. Do you care if I get married?

If your answer is NO to both, it's cool.

Actually, that question was pretty gay. woohoo.gif

Actually I'm on the Million for Marriage mailing list and I plan to officiate a lesbian marriage in June (I'm a ULC minister), so uh, no.

Well, unless I find pictures of myself on the internet, passed out, with your balls on my face. Then I'll kick your ass.


Posted by: damnitbouy Jan 27 2005, 08:27 AM
QUOTE
Actually I'm on the Million for Marriage mailing list and I plan to officiate a lesbian marriage in June (I'm a ULC minister), so uh, no.


Great! I feel much better then. I've been fighting the marriage battle. I actively campaigned against the amendment to the Georgia constitution to define marriage as the man - woman thing. Of course it passed w/ 73%. But the republicans that rushed it on the ballot, screwed up and it's going to be overturned. Eventually the Supreme Court is going to rule and they'll all be gone.

QUOTE
Well, unless I find pictures of myself on the internet, passed out, with your balls on my face. Then I'll kick your ass.


No chance of that. I don't think you frequent the sites that I'd post it on. And anyway, just cause I'm Gay, it doesn't mean I'm gay.' I'm a butch kinda guy I might just hold ya down, call ya Mary and make you beg for those balls.

Seriously, use gay anyway you want. It's one of my favorite words, too.

Posted by: Mo Biggsley Jan 27 2005, 04:38 PM
QUOTE

Well, unless I find pictures of myself on the internet, passed out, with your balls on my face.


Wrong thread. See teabagging.

Posted by: Shadfox Jan 27 2005, 04:53 PM
QUOTE
I'm a butch kinda guy I might just hold ya down, call ya Mary and make you beg for those balls.


Yay, another one GONZ9729CustomImage1539775.gif

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