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Posted by: Saviourmachine Nov 4 2004, 06:51 AM | ||||||||
In America I picked this line from Karl to Rameus from one of the topics on this forum. I'd like to know how things work in America (it's often so "non-europian"). And if I'm in the opportunity I'd like to discuss how the things work overhere, Holland. In that way my chauvinistic tendencies will be restricted to this thread.
Yes, I agree a little, choose your opponents carefully when expressing yourself. In Holland The day before yesterday another freethinker in Holland is shot. The grand-grand-grand-son of Vincent van Gogh, the painter.
That's standard vocabulary for Van Gogh (beside goat fucker). I hope that freedom of speech will be maintained like this: http://www.militantislammonitor.org/article/id/89. 1) Would such a public discussion be possible in your country? 'Gedogen' It's a summary of our society. By the way do you know that John Kerry would have won in Holland with 75%? The concept of 'gedogen' is explained in that article too.
It's not legal, it's not illegal... (reminds me of theist/atheist discussion, Neil ). 2) Do you've things in America that are tolerated - and aren't as such merely illegal? |
Posted by: notblindedbytheblight Nov 4 2004, 07:52 AM |
Hell, it's illegal in Oklahoma to drive barefooted...I do it all the time. So you might say, in certain cases, that what is tolerated is already illegal, but not enforced. Maybe the same? |
Posted by: Reach Nov 4 2004, 08:04 AM | ||
Same here. It's safer to drive barefoot (where your feet are more sensitive to the pedals) than to drive with rigid, thick-soled boots. |
Posted by: Saviourmachine Nov 4 2004, 08:07 AM | ||
O, yeah. That was you. Barefooted. Yes, I remember you had it in your quote, Reach. Do you get fined if they catch you? |
Posted by: Reach Nov 4 2004, 08:11 AM | ||||
I know you were asking NBBTB, but I thought I'd answer as well. Caught and fined for driving barefoot? I've been caught, but not fined... not yet. I carry a pair of shoes with me just in case I'm pulled over. And I can slip into them really quickly. I refuse to allow the law to force me to wear shoes in my own vehicle. |
Posted by: notblindedbytheblight Nov 4 2004, 09:27 AM | ||||||
Me too. When I do have to wear shoes to drive, I usually end up throwing my daughter against the seat because I stepped on the gas too hard! I don't even think the police officers know it's illegal! |
Posted by: Saviourmachine Nov 4 2004, 11:29 AM | ||||
Yes, that's not exactly the same I think. Differences with 'gedogen' in e.g. prostitution:
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Posted by: notblindedbytheblight Nov 4 2004, 11:51 AM |
Allrighty then! Really, I'm not sure if there is anything here like that then. Prostituion is legal here in some states and not in others. So, it matters if you are looking at the entire US or the states individually. I think it's more black and white. It's legal in this state and not in that state kind of thing. Just don't take your hooker across the state's border! |