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Posted by: Mo Biggsley Mar 1 2005, 10:46 AM
Since my affair with Rainyday has been public knowledge to anyone who reads my posts, I thought I'd go ahead and let anyone who wonders (or cares) know that I've broken up with her. She currently lives in my apartment with two of her sons and is looking for a place to go. Our relationship began with not-so-innocent flirting mainly in the sex and christianity part of the old site and of this site, but spilled over into nearly everything else. Later I posted and then deleted a thread about the problems we were having. The relationship is now completely over. Hopefully, she will find somewhere to stay soon. I want her out of my life as soon as possible. I've never met a person more capable of making me feel like shit. I paid for her to move to Florida on the agreement that she would quickly get and job and help me pay the bills. Instead I supported her for a few months and later two of her sons as well. Now I'm out of money, so I'm cancelling my lease and moving back in with my parents for a little while until I can pay off the debt I racked up while with her. I guess the moral is never to think with your cock. I feel like a sucker. In getting to know her, I realized she always has an excuse, never takes accountability for her fuck ups, and has lived her whole life taking advantage of anyone nice enough to support her. She claims she had a house and a job in MN, but it turns out that a nice old couple bought the house for her and employed her 5 hours a week for their newspaper as "rent" while she collected child support for her other bills. That's not exactly supporting yourself. I paid all the bills when she moved in with me and didn't even get a smile or a thank you. The supposedly explosive sex life I thought we would have was gone the moment she moved in. She made it clear she didn't care for me once she was permanently settled in. She drank constantly and told me things such as "I hate you. You disgust me. Your mother is fat and disgusting and has big fat tits. Maybe your exgirlfriend with the fat disgusting tits will take you back when I'm gone." And so on. I've never had to put up with someone as immature, pathetic, selfish, and irresponsible in my life. That's it. I'm done with relationships. I quit. If I didn't need it to urinate, I'd auction off my cock on Ebay. I don't want it anymore. It interferes with my brain functions.

No Reserve Auction starting at $0.99

1 caucasian penis size medium circumcised. Well maintained but also has high mileage. No diseases. Serious bidders only. Please, no bidders with negative feedback. Caution: under no circumstances should this appendage be used as a brain substitute.

Posted by: Reach Mar 1 2005, 11:06 AM
I'm truly sorry for all that you have suffered, Mo.

I'm glad to see you moving on with your life. There are more healthy people out there, with whom you can have great relationships, or even good friendships. You will recover from this mistake.

I hope you'll be able to climb out of debt... quickly! I'm glad your parents will be able to help in the way you mentioned. Keep your chin up, ok? I expect it gets better from here.

All the best; think good things and remember what you learned here. We've all done some things that were less than brilliant; I could write a book on my stuff alone.

I have to live in hope because sometimes, I'm just plain stupid.
Reach

Posted by: LloydDobler Mar 1 2005, 11:10 AM
That's rough, man, sorry to hear it.

Posted by: Mo Biggsley Mar 1 2005, 11:12 AM
Thanks R. You just got me to smile. I haven't smiled much since I met her at the airport and she avoided my embrace and kiss then told me to just get the car. My life has been hell ever since. I haven't lived with my folks since I was 19 except for a month or two after I got out of the Army, but somehow it doesn't seem as humiliating as it would have a few years back.

Posted by: doomguarder Mar 1 2005, 11:12 AM
I hope the healing process is quick.

In my experience, people who throw those sort of insults have a low self esteem and are trying to elevate themselves at the expense of others.

I do not know Rainyday or you personally, but based on your post only, I am sorry you got caught up in that situation.


Posted by: AndreasBolle Mar 1 2005, 11:13 AM
Good luck to you.

Posted by: Mo Biggsley Mar 1 2005, 11:19 AM
Thanks Lloyd, Doom, and Andreas.

Doom - I'm not blameless and I'll take accountability for my own foulmouth once I've had time to think about things I've said and done. However, I don't think Rainy will ever take accountability for her actions and I'm just plain worn out. Hopefully I'm not making myself look like a victim. However, the only thing more idiotic than moving her in with me would be to stay in this relationship a day longer.

Posted by: quicksand Mar 1 2005, 11:23 AM
Puke it out MoB.

I won't comment on the spefics – in my mind that's just between you and her, however, look at this way, you get some home cooking for awhile.

So puke it out MoB. Just Puke it Out.

Best way to get over it. Sucks anyway. Regards.

Posted by: doomguarder Mar 1 2005, 11:27 AM
No story is one sided and no breakup is either. But when you know it can not work it is better for both individuals involved to end it quickly before too many lines are formed that will have to be severed.

All that is left is to learn from the mistake.

I hope it all works out.

Posted by: Mo Biggsley Mar 1 2005, 12:19 PM
QUOTE (quicksand @ Mar 1 2005, 11:23 AM)
Puke it out MoB.

I won't comment on the spefics – in my mind that's just between you and her, however, look at this way, you get some home cooking for awhile.

So puke it out MoB. Just Puke it Out.

Best way to get over it. Sucks anyway. Regards.

Funny thing is, she got drunk one night and told me she meant to flirt with you and only started flirting with me on accident, Quick. She said she got the two of us confused.

That's kind of an odd thing to repeat, but this relationship was anything but normal.

I guess I was the accidental boyfriend.

Posted by: quicksand Mar 1 2005, 12:21 PM
QUOTE (Mo Biggsley @ Mar 1 2005, 12:19 PM)
QUOTE (quicksand @ Mar 1 2005, 11:23 AM)
Puke it out MoB.

I won't comment on the spefics – in my mind that's just between you and her, however, look at this way, you get some home cooking for awhile.

So puke it out MoB. Just Puke it Out.

Best way to get over it. Sucks anyway. Regards.

Funny thing is, she got drunk one night and told me she meant to flirt with you and only started flirting with me on accident, Quick.

That's kind of an odd thing to repeat, but this relationship was anything but normal.

I guess I was the accidental boyfriend.

Is that so? Oh my Mo. I feel like you taken a bullet for me. GONZ9729CustomImage1539775.gif

(but i don't ever date. just casual sex for me. been in the serious relationship stuff... no thanks!)

Posted by: Mo Biggsley Mar 1 2005, 12:24 PM
Obviously a smarter man than I.

As the old saying goes: it is better to have loved and lost than to have loved and lost all of your money while being treated like shit by a deadbeat, lazy, jobless drunk who verbally abuses you.

Posted by: quicksand Mar 1 2005, 12:27 PM
QUOTE (Mo Biggsley @ Mar 1 2005, 12:24 PM)
Obviously a smarter man than I.

As the old saying goes: it is better to have loved and lost to have loved and lost all of your money while being treated like shit by a deadbeat, lazy, jobless drunk who verbally abuses you.

Yiaaa! Is that what they say? Damn. Hey MoB, it'll pass man. Til then, you got your friends here to puke it out with.

Posted by: notblindedbytheblight Mar 1 2005, 12:47 PM
QUOTE (Mo Biggsley @ Mar 1 2005, 11:19 AM)
Thanks Lloyd, Doom, and Andreas.

Doom - I'm not blameless and I'll take accountability for my own foulmouth once I've had time to think about things I've said and done. However, I don't think Rainy will ever take accountability for her actions and I'm just plain worn out. Hopefully I'm not making myself look like a victim. However, the only thing more idiotic than moving her in with me would be to stay in this relationship a day longer.

Mo, I am going to be direct here...you are now seeing what many members here saw in her right away. They say, love is blind and I believe it.

Live and learn Mo and I hope you heal quickly and don't let this one person affect your outlook too much.

Nice to see ya back!

Posted by: Mo Biggsley Mar 1 2005, 12:54 PM
Thanks Notblinded! I got with her when I was in the middle of a breakup with person I wasn't in love with. To be honest, I was borderline suicidal when I got with Rainy. If anything, breaking up has made my outlook much rosier. I'm excited about the opportunity to get out of debt and then maybe go back to school and finish this time. I dropped out of college at 18 years old to move in with a girl and have lived with several other women since either supporting them or simply co-existing with the more responsible ones who paid half the bills. I think this is my chance to live life on my own terms for once and stop living it just to get laid or fall in love.

It wasn't just the members of this board who saw that in her either. The people at Puckys.com saw it too. So did my family. I'm just a sucker.

Posted by: quicksand Mar 1 2005, 01:04 PM
QUOTE
It wasn't just the members of this board who saw that in her either. The people at Puckys.com saw it too. So did my family. I'm just a sucker.

Fuck no. Despite it all, you still paid her bills and provided a home for childern.

Take pride in that and now get your ass back in school.

Just think, all sorts of co-eds running around.... wicked.gif (just don't move with them...)

Posted by: notblindedbytheblight Mar 1 2005, 01:07 PM
QUOTE (Mo Biggsley @ Mar 1 2005, 12:54 PM)
Thanks Notblinded! I got with her when I was in the middle of a breakup with person I wasn't in love with. To be honest, I was borderline suicidal when I got with Rainy. If anything, breaking up has made my outlook much rosier. I'm excited about the opportunity to get out of debt and then maybe go back to school and finish this time. I dropped out of college at 18 years old to move in with a girl and have lived with several other women since either supporting them or simply co-existing with the more responsible ones who paid half the bills. I think this is my chance to live life on my own terms for once and stop living it just to get laid or fall in love.

It wasn't just the members of this board who saw that in her either. The people at Puckys.com saw it too. So did my family. I'm just a sucker.

You are not a sucker...you just wanted to be in love. Nothing wrong with that. Believe me...I have had my share of 'winners' too!

You know, I just told a christian that trials and tribulations happen to everyone...not just chrisitans. Oh well, let me put it here for ya:

QUOTE
(wiredoutreach @ Feb 28 2005, 05:46 PM)
Slayer,
  Honestly my heart goes out to you.  I have no doubt about your sincere belief as a Christian.  In fact, I was telling my pastor last Friday about many of you and how deep your faith was and of the good works were for Christ many of you did when you were Christians.  I have no reason to doubt the sincerity of anyone here.  But, all of you have not only rejected Christ, but so easily (at least it appears) embraced the philosophy garbage.  It's like a depressed person who turns to alcohol.  I personally believe that God does not speak to you in audible sense.  I believe he speaks to you by way of the Holy Spirit through his word.  I am sorry your fellow brothers and sisters in Christ did not support you and I am sorry you feel as though God let you down.  I remember learning one time that Satan sends us our most troubling times right before God does something great with our lives.  I can only hope you did not miss God's biggest accomplishment in your life because you lost your faith. 


QUOTE (me)
You are kidding right?

What you are describing happens in reality anyway. What about all those great times that happen to non-christians?



QUOTE (wired)
Remember, Jesus promised trials and tribulations for the faithful.  The very fact that you suffered goes only to show how real Jesus' promises are and how real Jesus is.



Oh cool! No trials and tribulations for the unfaithful! Woohoo!

It does not prove that Jesus' promises are real and how real he is. It only shows that sh*t happens (to the unfaithful also).


You are proving that great things can happen to us too.

Sorry...I know that was silly, but it seemed fitting. FrogsToadBigGrin.gif Wendytwitch.gif

Posted by: Mo Biggsley Mar 1 2005, 01:14 PM
QUOTE (quicksand @ Mar 1 2005, 01:04 PM)
Despite it all, you still paid her bills and provided a home for children.


And when I broke up with her all she had to say was "So how long do me and my children have until we're homeless because of you?"

That is not what I'd consider a normal response. It does tell me I was being used. I'm sick of her using her children to make me feel guilty. I bought their bikes, school supplies, xmas and birthday presents yet she told me several times I was letting them down because I didn't take them to the beach when I said I would or if I didn't feel like playing with them. I can't take anymore guilt trips over children. I love kids and her kids are good kids, but they aren't my own. I feel like I did a good job under the circumstances. I mostly stayed out of their way. I didn't yell at them. I helped them with their homework. I paid $775 to fly them to Florida after she guilted me into it.

QUOTE (Notblinded)
You are proving that great things can happen to us too.

Sorry...I know that was silly, but it seemed fitting.


FrogsToadBigGrin.gif

Posted by: quicksand Mar 1 2005, 01:17 PM
QUOTE (Mo Biggsley @ Mar 1 2005, 01:14 PM)
QUOTE (quicksand @ Mar 1 2005, 01:04 PM)
Despite it all, you still paid her bills and provided a home for children.


An when I broke up with her all she had to say was "So how long do me and my children have until we're homeless because of you?"

That is not what I'd consider a normal response. It does tell me I was being used.

This will be heartless of me, but its not your problem.

She should have been pulling her own damn weight.

It's her fault ultimately.

Nuff said, and yes she was using you, which reflects on her much worse.

Posted by: I Broke Free Mar 1 2005, 01:28 PM
QUOTE (Mo Biggsley @ Mar 1 2005, 04:14 PM)
"So how long do me and my children have until we're homeless because of you?"


Where did Rainy get her Masters in Manipulation?

Posted by: Mo Biggsley Mar 1 2005, 02:20 PM
Correction. The kids bikes were purchased (in part) with her child support money and the rest was on my credit card. The bike I bought for her however, was pawned a few hours after I broke up with her for court filing fees in her custody case and pizza for the other two.

Posted by: NIGHTFLIGHT Mar 1 2005, 03:07 PM
Sorry about that!

Posted by: woodsmoke Mar 1 2005, 03:19 PM
Sorry to hear it, man. Good to know you got yourself out a bad situation, and I hope you can stick to the conviction to start working at taking control of your life. He're to hoping we can both accomplish that one.

Posted by: Madame M Mar 1 2005, 03:55 PM
QUOTE (I Broke Free @ Mar 1 2005, 04:28 PM)
QUOTE (Mo Biggsley @ Mar 1 2005, 04:14 PM)
"So how long do me and my children have until we're homeless because of you?"


Where did Rainy get her Masters in Manipulation?

I don't know this Rainy, except the smidge of her from the other Mo post.

But I couldn't resist. It must have been BCU. (Ball Crusher University) I know a few women who have graduated from there.

Mo, sorry about your lousy relationship. I have a long time friend who is revcovering from a similar situation- except he married the woman. 4 kids she had from previous relationships. Took him for everything he was worth and stuck him with the lawyer bill. He's living with his mom, trying to recover financially. It really stinks that there are people out there who do not go into a relationship equitably.

Posted by: jaded Mar 1 2005, 04:09 PM
Damn Mo, sorry to hear you had to deal with that. Definitely not cool.

Glad to hear you are out and free. Living with the parents isn't so bad. I moved back in when my dad had a stroke, now my mom can't get rid of me FrogsToadBigGrin.gif It's definitely helped me get on a better financial footing and my mom really needs the help.

Breaking up sucks but it sounds like you are in a far better situation now that you are done. It sounds like she had every intention of using you from the beginning, you don't need that.

I hope things start to look up for ya!

Posted by: Mo Biggsley Mar 1 2005, 04:25 PM
I'm not out yet. I still have a month paid on my apartment and she's still here. Things are very tense.

BTW, I added the correction about the kids' bikes because Rainy read this thread and accused me of telling a bunch of lies to get people on my side. I'm not trying to get anyone on my side. I just felt that since this relationship was kinda crammed down everyone's throat, I might as well rant about it here during the break up. The fact is, I've said and done plenty of bad things in my life. I got what I deserved with Rainy. I think I've paid the price now. I'm getting my life back together and have a newfound respect for people who treat others with dignity. Perhaps I can learn to stop acting like a loudmouthed, immature, braggart and begin to act like a normal person now. At least I'll try.

Posted by: Biggles7268 Mar 1 2005, 04:33 PM
sorry to hear that Mo, thank the gods you didn't marry her.

Posted by: jaded Mar 1 2005, 04:45 PM
Too bad you are still stuck for now Mo. At least you have moving out to look forward to. It sounds like a tough situation. I feel sorry for the kids, but that is her problem, not yours.

Posted by: Mo Biggsley Mar 1 2005, 05:17 PM
QUOTE (Biggles7268 @ Mar 1 2005, 04:33 PM)
sorry to hear that Mo, thank the gods you didn't marry her.

Funny you should mention that. After our first big breakup that I spoke of in the original apology thread, she suggested we get engaged so that would never happen again (this was after she told me I disgusted her and she'd rather be in jail than in my bed, etc) so like an idiot, I bought a ring and proposed. I was going to file for a marriage license, but decided to put it off until after we settled into the new place. Eventually, I realized she was always going to make me feel like everything was my fault, avoid touching me, complain about me whenever I wanted to have sex, etc whether or not she was my girlfriend, fiance', or wife. I'd never proposed before that and now I hope I never do again. The only reason I did it was because she acted like she would be happy with me if I proposed. She also acted like she couldn't be happy until I moved into a bigger place and flew her kids here. And she acted like she couldn't be happy until she was fully supported by me. Luckily, I came to my senses before obtaining that marriage license. Goddammit! Just reading that, I realize how much of a sucker I am. I was willing to marry her just to get her to stop yelling at me and possibly have sex with me more often! I'm a fucking idiot for not seeing through her sooner. I was in love. I admit it, but what the fuck?

Posted by: Shadfox Mar 1 2005, 06:28 PM
That's just rotten what she did. Now that it's out in the open, there's one piece of the puzzle I'm curious to know about (more like, does it exist in the first place). Was Rainy really getting sexually harassed on this board via PM's?

Posted by: TexasFreethinker Mar 1 2005, 06:38 PM
Congratulations on your escape.

No one deserves to be treated the way rainy treats people. I sincerely hope you find someone who will care about you rather than use you. I feel sorry for rainy's boys.

Posted by: Vixentrox Mar 1 2005, 06:54 PM
Didn't she get banned off the forums?

Posted by: Mo Biggsley Mar 1 2005, 07:04 PM
Couldn't have. I'm typing on her computer. I think her profile and membership were deleted.

Posted by: Vixentrox Mar 1 2005, 07:07 PM
Oh...thought she had been banned for some reason. I'm sure we'll be seeing her version then soon enough.

Posted by: Lanakila Mar 1 2005, 07:16 PM
Mo--many hugs for you. Frankly I don't know what to say besides we are here as ears to listen to you rant. I understand the need to do that.

Posted by: Fweethawt Mar 1 2005, 07:58 PM
Mo,

I think you're a liar! We all know for a fact that Rainy made a complete about-face once she was exposed to the opinions of some of the members here. We all know that she changed, and that she changed for the better.

This post here tells all:
QUOTE (rainyday8169 @ Jul 27 2004, 01:50 PM)
I don't sleep that much these days so I do a lot of thinking. I wanted you all to know that other people in my life have pointed out, and I myself have noticed a subtle change in the way I treat others. I never actually mistreated others but as some of you pointed out when I first got here, I could sometimes be a bit harsh.

I just want you to know that I didn't take offense to that and did a lot of thinking, almost as a direct result of those comments and I would like to thank you, especially FF and Phoenix for making me think a bit more about what I am trying to say and how I should say it before I just spout off.

My boss and a very close friend have both commented on my new found "tact”.

I also want to thank everyone for the support I have gotten from this site. I think if not for the optimism you have given me I may have slipped into a deep depression over my current situation.

I value your opinions (even when they don't agree with my own) and your friendship more than words can say.

-S


lmao_99.gif phew.gif lmao_99.gif
====================================================

Okay. Enough with the cutting sarcasm already. It's not really me. I just finished my second can of Coke, and I'm feeling a bit woozy. That's all. GONZ9729CustomImage1539775.gif

I guess you could say that, um...

I've been saving that post for a Rainyday! WendyDoh.gif lmao_99.gif WendyDoh.gif
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Dude,

Take this whole situation as being one of the most eye-opening lessons that you've ever learned. Look on the bright side... You don't have to give up on finding love, and you really shouldn't. If anything, you've at least learned what 'signs' to look for the next time that you decide to start falling for a woman.

You know as well as I do that there are responsible and respectable women out there that are looking for love. You'll know what to look for from now on.

Good luck. Good for you, and I wish you a speedy, complete, and prosperous recovery from this. You have the drive to make it happen. It's just a matter of time.




Posted by: Rhodacat Mar 1 2005, 08:16 PM
Mo- After reading your story I just wanted to tell my wife how much I appreciate her. You are a good person who got screwed. But you are young! You are in good shape! You have a good future in front of you. You have parents who love you. When I was 20 (I am 44 now) I came home one night and found out my wife was fucking some high schooler from her job. I took it hard! I blamed myself (Thank you Jesus and your people-Jobs friends) and spent the next 15 years trying to undo the "wrong I did". The good thing that came out of it was I made it through that fucked time in my life. But today it is over and I am happy the way things turned out. My first wife was fucked up because of her dad. So I can't blame the whole thing on her. I wonder about Rainy. Maybe she was fucked up by someone in her past????

Posted by: Biggles7268 Mar 2 2005, 02:38 AM
QUOTE (Mo Biggsley @ Mar 1 2005, 05:17 PM)
QUOTE (Biggles7268 @ Mar 1 2005, 04:33 PM)
sorry to hear that Mo, thank the gods you didn't marry her.

Funny you should mention that. After our first big breakup that I spoke of in the original apology thread, she suggested we get engaged so that would never happen again (this was after she told me I disgusted her and she'd rather be in jail than in my bed, etc) so like an idiot, I bought a ring and proposed. I was going to file for a marriage license, but decided to put it off until after we settled into the new place. Eventually, I realized she was always going to make me feel like everything was my fault, avoid touching me, complain about me whenever I wanted to have sex, etc whether or not she was my girlfriend, fiance', or wife. I'd never proposed before that and now I hope I never do again. The only reason I did it was because she acted like she would be happy with me if I proposed. She also acted like she couldn't be happy until I moved into a bigger place and flew her kids here. And she acted like she couldn't be happy until she was fully supported by me. Luckily, I came to my senses before obtaining that marriage license. Goddammit! Just reading that, I realize how much of a sucker I am. I was willing to marry her just to get her to stop yelling at me and possibly have sex with me more often! I'm a fucking idiot for not seeing through her sooner. I was in love. I admit it, but what the fuck?

So essentially she was just hunting for someone who would give her a free ride. That's one advantage to being poor like me, I'm not a target for people like her.

This is making me want to know a little bit more of the facts behind her ex taking custody of Cutter, she really made the guy out to be a psycho.

Posted by: Fweethawt Mar 2 2005, 02:51 AM
QUOTE (Biggles7268 @ Mar 2 2005, 05:38 AM)
This is making me want to know a little bit more of the facts behind her ex taking custody of Cutter, she really made the guy out to be a psycho.

I was thinking this very same thing, Biggles.

Mo already stated that the children are good kids.

Well, it's pretty obvious that they don't take after their mom. KatieHmm.gif Wendyshrug.gif

Can I get an AMEN muh brutha?




I know. I'm so mean. zDuivel7.gif GONZ9729CustomImage1539775.gif zDuivel7.gif

Posted by: Mo Biggsley Mar 2 2005, 03:49 AM
I've never met Cutter or his father, but I still think what the dad did was wrong. He is psycho. All he had to do was pay the child support. Instead he stole a child from his family. There is no lower life form. He wouldn't even let her talk to her son on Xmas. No matter what I feel about Rainy, I'm still sympathetic about her custody battle. A child needs his mother. She loves her children and they love her. No matter what else I could say about her, I won't take that away. I wanted us to be one happy family, but I simply couldn't afford to do it all on my own. I hope she finds someone who can help her. I really do. But I'm worn out emotionally and spent financially. There is nothing I can do except move on with my life and hope the best for her.

Posted by: The Acid Washed Messiah Mar 2 2005, 07:25 AM
I'm still in shock she wouldn't get a job.

I don't get it.

All of this could've been avoided if she would've just got up off her ass and gotten a fucking job.

I seriously don't understand how an adult can refuse to take steps to better themselves and their situation.

I guess I don't know Rainy as much as I thought I did.

Posted by: Loren Mar 2 2005, 08:54 AM
QUOTE (Mo Biggsley @ Mar 1 2005, 10:46 AM)
If I didn't need it to urinate, I'd auction off my cock on Ebay. I don't want it anymore. It interferes with my brain functions.

No Reserve Auction starting at $0.99

1 caucasian penis size medium circumcised. Well maintained but also has high mileage. No diseases. Serious bidders only. Please, no bidders with negative feedback. Caution: under no circumstances should this appendage be used as a brain substitute.

lmao_99.gif For many years now, I've wished that testicles were detachable.

CONGRATULATIONS, MO!!!

As Reach and others have stated, we've all made some whopping mistakes in our relationships. Me too, for sure. I'm very glad you came to your senses and are doing what you need to to recover in all ways. As you said in relating your willingness to marry her, it could have been far worse!


QUOTE (Mo)
As the old saying goes: it is better to have loved and lost than to have loved and lost all of your money while being treated like shit by a deadbeat, lazy, jobless drunk who verbally abuses you.


I loved that line so much I saved it to my Great Quotes file. I thought it would make a great sig line for somebody...


Posted by: Mo Biggsley Mar 2 2005, 07:11 PM
QUOTE (Fwee)
You don't have to give up on finding love, and you really shouldn't.


Yes. I should give up. I fell in love at 16 and dropped out of high school twice both times with a different woman thinking I could work at Taco Bell and support myself and them and maybe get married. I got into community college with a GED and dropped out again to work in a restaurant and move in with another girl I fell in love with. I joined the army with a girl who I planned to ask to marry me once we finished AIT. I got out of the Army and moved in with a girl who I couldn't stand but was in love with me. I thought I could make myself love her but that didn't work either. I moved Rainy to Florida to be with me because I was in love with her and thought she loved me. I fall in love too fucking much. I need to just take care of my own business from now on. Fuck love and fuck getting laid. I'll do without either from now on. That's 13 years of being in love and fucking up. I'm done.

I do appreciate all the encouragement from everyone though.

Posted by: Fweethawt Mar 2 2005, 11:05 PM
Wow! That is messed up, isn't it? Wendytwitch.gif

Well, you can at least look at the superstitious
bright-side
of this situation...
QUOTE
That's 13 years of being in love and fucking up.


As we all know, the number 13 is an unlucky number. Wendyshrug.gif

Who knows?

Maybe things will start gettin' better from here? FrogsToadBigGrin.gif

Perhaps your experience with Rainy was your Grand Finale
of bad luck going out with a big bang? Wendyshrug.gif WendyDoh.gif Wendyshrug.gif

Posted by: Loren Mar 3 2005, 01:45 AM
QUOTE (Fweethawt @ Mar 2 2005, 11:05 PM)
Perhaps your experience with Rainy was your Grand Finale
of bad luck going out with a big bang? Wendyshrug.gif WendyDoh.gif Wendyshrug.gif

Sounds more like no bang, Fwee.

(Sorry, Mo. I just couldn't resist.)

Posted by: Fweethawt Mar 3 2005, 02:46 AM
QUOTE (Loren @ Mar 3 2005, 04:45 AM)
QUOTE (Fweethawt @ Mar 2 2005, 11:05 PM)
Perhaps your experience with Rainy was your Grand Finale
of bad luck going out with a big bang? Wendyshrug.gif WendyDoh.gif Wendyshrug.gif

Sounds more like no bang, Fwee.

(Sorry, Mo. I just couldn't resist.)

That was user posted image COLD!


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Posted by: Reach Mar 3 2005, 03:42 AM
QUOTE (Fweethawt @ Mar 3 2005, 02:46 AM)
QUOTE (Loren @ Mar 3 2005, 04:45 AM)
QUOTE (Fweethawt @ Mar 2 2005, 11:05 PM)
Perhaps your experience with Rainy was your Grand Finale
of bad luck going out with a big bang? Wendyshrug.gif WendyDoh.gif Wendyshrug.gif

Sounds more like no bang, Fwee.

(Sorry, Mo. I just couldn't resist.)

That was user posted image COLD!


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I think the correct word is F R I G I D. FrogsToadBigGrin.gif

Posted by: Mo Biggsley Mar 3 2005, 04:47 AM
No Mo bang . . .

At least for awhile. . .

Hopefully. . .

It'd be better that way if I can stick to that plan. . .

I just have to learn about this self control thing people speak of. . .

Posted by: Reach Mar 3 2005, 05:52 AM
QUOTE (Mo Biggsley @ Mar 3 2005, 04:47 AM)
No Mo bang . . . At least for awhile. . . Hopefully. . .

It'd be better that way if I can stick to that plan. . .

I just have to learn about this self control thing people speak of. . .

You might find it helpful, Mo, to S T A Y O U T of the S & C forum, for awhile.

And then perhaps later, much later...

Get married, in any case. If you happen to get a good mate, you will be happy; if a bad one, you will become philosophical, which is a fine thing in itself. --Socrates, in Diogenes Laertius, Lives

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Posted by: Mo Biggsley Mar 3 2005, 02:27 PM
There are great women everywhere. The gym is my biggest weakness and I'm certainly not avoiding that place. The only thing I can do is try to keep my head out of my ass and work on my life instead of thinking I need a woman to make my life complete.

Posted by: The Acid Washed Messiah Mar 3 2005, 02:51 PM
At least you have your black girlfriend to fall back on, right? lmao_99.gif

Posted by: Mo Biggsley Mar 4 2005, 04:48 AM
If ever I needed proof she was living in bizarro-world, her accusing me of replacing her with a "black girlfriend" was all the proof I needed. Very strange.

Posted by: The Acid Washed Messiah Mar 4 2005, 07:16 AM
Yeah, seriously... she's a Pacific Islander... duh.

Posted by: Lanakila Mar 4 2005, 08:18 AM
QUOTE (Mo Biggsley @ Mar 3 2005, 02:27 PM)
There are great women everywhere. The gym is my biggest weakness and I'm certainly not avoiding that place. The only thing I can do is try to keep my head out of my ass and work on my life instead of thinking I need a woman to make my life complete.

Mo, I know this lesson is coming hard for you. I can relate to learning lessons the hard way. But, you don't need anyone to make your life complete. You are a completely cool person on your own. If and when you get into another relationship it helps to have two complete persons instead of: a the rocks in my head fit your holes in your head type relationship.Obviously yours and Rainy's rocks and holes didn't fit, but looking for someone to complete you is the wrong way to go about it. My ex and I had a rocks and holes type relationship until his rocks didn't fit into my holes anymore and I was being destroyed by them.

edited to make it less kinky sounding. I knew what I meant even if y'all didn't WendyDoh.gif

Posted by: The Acid Washed Messiah Mar 4 2005, 09:15 AM
All this talk about rocks and holes sounds kinky.

Posted by: sexkitten Mar 4 2005, 09:32 AM
I was going to say that you usually don't want his *rocks* in your hole...

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edited to make it less kinky sounding. I knew what I meant even if y'all didn't WendyDoh.gif


Party pooper.

Posted by: Lanakila Mar 4 2005, 09:43 AM
I like other things in my holes. Rocks sound painful, not kinky.

Posted by: Lokmer Mar 4 2005, 10:00 AM
QUOTE (Lanakila @ Mar 4 2005, 09:43 AM)
I like other things in my holes. Rocks sound painful, not kinky.

I find fenceposts fit well in holes I dig for that purpose.

But I don't like rocks in them - fucks up the seating of the posts.
-Lokmer

Posted by: Mo Biggsley Mar 4 2005, 10:04 AM
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I have no idea what you were talking about, Lana, but I appreciate the sentiment. I'm over trying to rock holes for now. I'm just trying to get Rainy back to her home in Seattle and get my life back together.

Posted by: Mo Biggsley Mar 4 2005, 10:17 AM
QUOTE (The Acid Washed Messiah @ Mar 3 2005, 02:51 PM)
At least you have your black girlfriend to fall back on, right? lmao_99.gif

I've been thinking maybe she was referring to Serena Williams. Unfortunately, Serena being my girlfriend is only a fantasy. If she was referring to Serena, all I can say is "I wish cloud9_99.gif "

Posted by: Lanakila Mar 4 2005, 10:25 AM
QUOTE (Lokmer @ Mar 4 2005, 10:00 AM)
QUOTE (Lanakila @ Mar 4 2005, 09:43 AM)
I like other things in my holes. Rocks sound painful, not kinky.

I find fenceposts fit well in holes I dig for that purpose.

But I don't like rocks in them - fucks up the seating of the posts.
-Lokmer

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Posted by: non conformist Mar 4 2005, 10:25 AM
Oh, Mo!

I'm so sorry you were dealt this shitty hand...

I am glad, however, that you've come to your senses; you're a better man than most to allow her to stay with you still.

I'm worried that you'll allow bitterness to be your guide when being confronted with, or offered love in the future. Time to get to know who you are as an individual is probably the best thing; it seems as though you're thinking along those lines already. Don't ever feel bad about trying to do good by someone, just because they took it for granted. It's a reflection of their fucked up character, not yours.

Give yourself time to heal, to work on your betterment and growth, and please don't shut down completely. Maybe a little, um, crack is all you need to remain a loving human being. Best wishes to you.

P.S.

Little message for Rainy: You're a dumb ass...as a mother, I can't believe your kids don't motivate you to do all you can to better yourself for their sake! What kind of example are you setting here? That it's ok to let people take care of you without a smidge of gratitude or even an attempt at helping out? And when that falls apart, you move on to the next person that you can sell your sop story to? How sad for them, and for you...

Posted by: Mo Biggsley Mar 4 2005, 10:57 AM
I've been bitter for a long time about many things from my past. I thought me and Rainy were two of a kind. But as it turned out, we are nothing alike. I actually think I'm less bitter about other things that have happened in my past after this experience. Rainy spends all of her time blaming others for her problems. I've done the same thing. I don't want to be anything like her. I've walked all over plenty of women the same way Rainy walked all over me. I got what I deserved. I was a sucker for her sexually. She knew how to push all of my buttons and then once she was moved in with nowhere else to go, she cut me off emotionally, sexually, and laid into me with guilt not unlike my Southern Baptist and Assemblies of God upbringing.

Eventually, the guilt trips didn't work on me and once I was out of money, I knew I had to break up and move on. I should have seen the signs early on, but I was a sucker in love. For some reason, I thought of Tammy Fay Bakker (of all people) speaking of how she carried a dead man on her back for too many years referring to her exhusband, Jim. Although I don't agree with her religious views, I find the analogy to be very apt.

Posted by: sexkitten Mar 4 2005, 11:16 AM
QUOTE (Mo Biggsley @ Mar 4 2005, 10:17 AM)
QUOTE (The Acid Washed Messiah @ Mar 3 2005, 02:51 PM)
At least you have your black girlfriend to fall back on, right? lmao_99.gif

I've been thinking maybe she was referring to Serena Williams. Unfortunately, Serena being my girlfriend is only a fantasy. If she was referring to Serena, all I can say is "I wish cloud9_99.gif "

Ah.... By that standard, I've got a bald English boyfriend. FrogsToadBigGrin.gif

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Posted by: Mo Biggsley Mar 4 2005, 11:41 AM
QUOTE (sexkitten @ Mar 4 2005, 11:16 AM)
QUOTE (Mo Biggsley @ Mar 4 2005, 10:17 AM)
QUOTE (The Acid Washed Messiah @ Mar 3 2005, 02:51 PM)
At least you have your black girlfriend to fall back on, right? lmao_99.gif

I've been thinking maybe she was referring to Serena Williams. Unfortunately, Serena being my girlfriend is only a fantasy. If she was referring to Serena, all I can say is "I wish cloud9_99.gif "

Ah.... By that standard, I've got a bald English boyfriend. FrogsToadBigGrin.gif

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I still think Patrick Stewart and Marina Sirtis were fucking during TNG. I have no proof of this, but I'm still convinced they were.

Posted by: CRCampbell Mar 4 2005, 12:05 PM
QUOTE (Mo Biggsley @ Mar 1 2005, 04:14 PM)
QUOTE (quicksand @ Mar 1 2005, 01:04 PM)
Despite it all, you still paid her bills and provided a home for children.


And when I broke up with her all she had to say was "So how long do me and my children have until we're homeless because of you?"

That is not what I'd consider a normal response. It does tell me I was being used. I'm sick of her using her children to make me feel guilty. I bought their bikes, school supplies, xmas and birthday presents yet she told me several times I was letting them down because I didn't take them to the beach when I said I would or if I didn't feel like playing with them. I can't take anymore guilt trips over children. I love kids and her kids are good kids, but they aren't my own. I feel like I did a good job under the circumstances. I mostly stayed out of their way. I didn't yell at them. I helped them with their homework. I paid $775 to fly them to Florida after she guilted me into it.

QUOTE (Notblinded)
You are proving that great things can happen to us too.

Sorry...I know that was silly, but it seemed fitting.


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That's the kind of thing my mother did. Jesus H, that is bad. eek.gif

Posted by: notblindedbytheblight Mar 4 2005, 02:01 PM
QUOTE (Mo Biggsley @ Mar 2 2005, 07:11 PM)
QUOTE (Fwee)
You don't have to give up on finding love, and you really shouldn't.


Yes. I should give up. I fell in love at 16 and dropped out of high school twice both times with a different woman thinking I could work at Taco Bell and support myself and them and maybe get married. I got into community college with a GED and dropped out again to work in a restaurant and move in with another girl I fell in love with. I joined the army with a girl who I planned to ask to marry me once we finished AIT. I got out of the Army and moved in with a girl who I couldn't stand but was in love with me. I thought I could make myself love her but that didn't work either. I moved Rainy to Florida to be with me because I was in love with her and thought she loved me. I fall in love too fucking much. I need to just take care of my own business from now on. Fuck love and fuck getting laid. I'll do without either from now on. That's 13 years of being in love and fucking up. I'm done.

I do appreciate all the encouragement from everyone though.

Mo, there is much insight to what you have just stated if you can look at it...

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I need to just take care of my own business from now on.


I think if you do that, then a woman that wants to do the same will probably appreciate that from you. A relationship is not one of co-dependence but of independent people that love each other for being themselves and taking care of themselves.

Posted by: notblindedbytheblight Mar 4 2005, 02:04 PM
QUOTE (Mo Biggsley @ Mar 3 2005, 02:27 PM)
There are great women everywhere. The gym is my biggest weakness and I'm certainly not avoiding that place. The only thing I can do is try to keep my head out of my ass and work on my life instead of thinking I need a woman to make my life complete.

Damn...there you go again! Yes, with that attitude you will be happy and will attract all the right kind of women.

Okay...back to read some more of your posts that are showing you are on a good road.

Posted by: Mo Biggsley Mar 4 2005, 06:00 PM
After agreeing to be civil and professing we still cared for each other, me and Rainy got in another fight. This time it was over the things I said in this thread, so I bought Rainy her plane ticket and insisted she leave on the next flight to Seattle. There are still very strong feelings between us, but we've both hurt each other too deeply. Her and her boys are leaving for Seattle tomorrow morning on the first flight out. I also reserved a hotel room for her and got a loan to give her $500. It's not much and she doesn't have a home lined up yet, but it's over. As she gets ready for her last night here, my thoughts go to the week she visited me back in September and early October. It was the happiest week of my life. In particular, I remember her discovering the Floridian brown anole lizards and chasing them and laughing like a kid. We walked along Neptune Beach and had lunch at the Sundog Diner. It was a wonderful day for both of us. The happiest day of my life. I can't imagine she faked that moment or that I was being played at that time. In hindsight, we should have left it at one magical week together. When she moved here a month later, the fact that we had poor chemistry became evident immediately. I've still never cared for anyone as deeply as I cared for her. She believes I only wanted her for sex. That she was another conquest. Why she thinks I would move a 35 year old mother of 3 from Minnesota to Florida just for sex is beyond me. It's not as if there aren't available women in Jacksonville who like to have sex. I thought we had more. But all we really had was one perfect week.

She wants me to delete this thread, but I'd rather implore the reader to understand that every story has two sides. Naturally, my version is going to be biased in my favor. Keep in mind that she cannot post here to defend herself. Please keep an open mind and try not to judge her too harshly. I'll miss her, even though the last few months were hell. I'll miss her.

Posted by: Raineshower Mar 4 2005, 07:50 PM
Here's a poem I found for you and Rainy. I know you both wanted it to work.

Once we played at love together
Played it smartly, if you please;
Lightly, as a windblown feather,
Did we stake a heart apiece.
Oh, it was delicious fooling!
In the hottest of the game,
Without thought of future cooling,
All too quickly burned Life's flame.
In this give-and-take of glances,
Kisses sweet as honey dews,
When we played with equal chances,
Did you win, or did I lose?




Posted by: Mo Biggsley Mar 5 2005, 07:53 AM
She's gone now. She's on her flight to Seattle. Taking her to the airport and sending her on her way is the hardest thing I've ever done. It was an awful feeling. Her sons didn't even get the opportunity to say goodbye to the friends they made while they were here. I regret that, but the fight between me and Rainy had reached a boiling point. I wasn't going to argue anymore and I wasn't interested in hearing her call me a liar. She wasn't interested in anything I had to say either. I regret sending her away hastily, but it was the right thing to do. I don't think that she was using me anymore. I just think Jacksonville wasn't ever going to be home to her. She was miserable here. She had no car. No friends. She was trying to figure out how to fight the legal battle for her son without a lawyer. She barely knew anyone here. I guess there was no way for her to be happy and live here. I don't even think she ever realized the kind of terrible things she said to me on a daily basis. I think that between living far from home with only me as a friend and her impending custody battle the other side of the country, she was more miserable than even she knew. I hope things work out for Rainy in Seattle. I hope she gets Cutter back and finds happiness.

Posted by: bemuseme Mar 5 2005, 11:44 AM
Whoa Mo...I feel for you bud...I have been away and missed all the drama. I know you know I too flirted with Rainy for a while, and I still believe mutually as it was all just in fun, until one day she decided to try and crush my ego for whatever reason. It did not work but I was confused as to why. I had never done anything but give her encouragement and compliments. Hell I even transcribed some of her work for her "job" at the newspaper during that horrid week when Cutter was taken away. I felt sorry for her and still do. In many ways what you have gone through seems to parallel my own experiences. A series of relationships that I got into because I was in love with the idea of being in love finally taught me to take a different tack. My late grandmother who had suffered similarly told me to live for myself and love would come on its own. She had done that and met my grandfather, married 8 days later and had a wonderful relationship until the day he died. I am still waiting for the one, but have gained much love on my own, as I know now I am the source of it not anyone else. I also was raised around mostly men and all of this has taught me how to relate to women as friends and people first, instead of as sexual objects for my pleasure. I am not going to go so far as getting rid of my cock though as I just may need it one of these days.... lmao_99.gif

So step back, take a deep breath and learn to love women for more than their deliciously intoxicating bods... wicked.gif

Posted by: Mo Biggsley Mar 5 2005, 02:08 PM
Looking back over this thread, I've said a lot of things of a personal nature here about Rainy that I regret saying. Its too late to take anything back and I'm not going to delete the thread to hide anything. She was very hurt when she read it. I still love her. I also accept that it just wasn't possible to have a happy relationship under the circumstances. If we both considered the same area home and if we were both single without any children, we might have been able to work things out. But life is rearely so uncomplicated.

I'm done with this rant and ready to move on now.

Posted by: saviorforsale Mar 5 2005, 02:24 PM
I feel bad for her kids. they are the ones that are getting the worst of it. trust me, i know.

Posted by: Iconoclastithon Mar 6 2005, 12:42 PM
I'm sorry to hear about all the nastiness Mo; I hope that you and Rainy can both find what you are looking for. I also all works out for her and her Kids.
I always got a kick outa Rainy, I hope she tries to rejoin the forum and is allowed too. I loved the way she tried to pry into my sex{or lack thereof} life, it was always great entertainment.

and Rainy, is you happen to come back to the forum to read peoples comments, since I'm sure your very interested, yes-I'm still a Virgin,LoL!!! FrogsToadBigGrin.gif

Good luck to both of Mo, and to Rainy.\

And...I agree w/ SAVIOURFORSALE.


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