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Posted by: Reach Dec 21 2004, 10:51 AM
This little piece was located while I was looking for an Age of Consent by State listing...

Source: http://www.ageofconsent.com/definitions.htm The History of F.U.C.K.

F.U.C.K. - [EDITOR: We can document it now, so we include it]

Actually, the word 'fuck' is an abbreviation. In old England, anyone caught in illegal cohabitation was charged with 'unlawful carnal knowledge'---that was the technical term. It was a very common offense and, on the blotter, instead of writing out that so-and-so was being held 'for unlawful carnal knowledge' they would just write, 'F.U.C.K.' http://www.bigmagic.com/pages/blackj/column27.html

My colleague read on her writer's list a story pertaining to the origin of the word "FUCK." The story said it meant For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge. It was used when arresting prostitutes. I had heard the story much differently. I understood it to mean Forced Unknown Carnal Knowledge. As I understand the story it was used for women who had been raped. It was sometimes written on the door of her house so that men would know she was not a virgin. Does anyone know which story was true?

Then maybe that is how the same story made its way to my univ. in the 1960s. My Concise OED says, 16th century, origin unknown; my old American Heritage Dictionary says: Middle English _fucken_: a Germanic verb originally meaning "to strike, move quickly penetrate" (akin to or perhaps borrowed from Middle Dutch _fokken_, to strike, copulate with); details uncertain owing to lack of early attestations." Seems to be derived from the Indo-European root _peig_ or _peik_ (again acc. to American Heritage) and that means "evil-minded, hostile". http://www.inform.umd.edu/EdRes/Topic/WomensStudies/Computing/WMST-L/Logfiles/1993/May-1993/9305B

Claim: The word 'fuck' derives from an acronymic phrase, either 'For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge' or 'Fornication Under Consent of the King.'

The Genesis
In ancient England single people could not have sex unless they had consent of the king. When people wanted to have a baby, they had to get the consent of the king, and the king gave them a placard that they hung on their door while they were having sex. The placard had F. U. C. K. (Fornication Under Consent of the King) on it. Hence that's where the word Fuck came from. Now, aren't you glad you learned something new today?

In Christianized Anglo-Saxon Britain, invading kings would require that their troops would rape the women in a common demoralization procedure. Because fornication was against religious law, the rapists needed special religious permission, from the king.

Have been informed by lawyer friend that acronym stands for "For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge," a legal offense of a few centuries back regarding out-of-wedlock, underage, etc. coupling.

The dirty copulatory word back in days of yore was "swive". Supposedly "swive" was excised from texts by the Censors and replaced with the inscription "For Unlawful Carnal (or Cardinal?) Knowledge" -- or at least its initials. At least this is what I learned in college -- or was it the streets?

The explanation I heard as a kid was that it stood for: For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge.
It was said that this was a British Army charge used when soldiers were caught shagging without permission (I was never sure if it was shagging women or each other). They would be tried and sentenced, hence you're FUCKed now etc...

I thought it stood for what adulterers had written above them in the stocks: For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge, that being their crime.

Variations:
The 'acronym' is variously rendered as:
Fornication Under Consent of the King
Fornication Under Charles the King
Fornication Under Crown of the King
Fornication under Christ, King
Forbidden Under Charter of the King (a sign posted on brothels closed by the Crown)
For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge
Forced Unlawful Carnal Knowledge
File Under Carnal Knowledge (how Scotland Yard marked rape files).

Origins:
Though a few common English words have grown out of acronyms (words created by taking the first letter(s) of major words in a phrase), 'fuck' isn't one of them. With precious few exceptions, words of acronymic origin date from the 20th century and no earlier. It's almost guaranteed, therefore, any word from before the time of automobiles did not spring to life from a series of initials becoming so common folks began pronouncing it as its own word.

The acronymic explanation of the origin of 'fuck' takes one of two paths: Fornication Under Consent of the King or For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge. Dealing with the first of these, though it's pleasing to think couples looking to procreate in those Dark Old Days had to first obtain the sovereign's persmission and then post a notice of what they were up to so all the neighbors could enjoy a good snicker, a moment's thought should set that one to rest. Were the king responsible for handing out such permissions, he wouldn't have time to do anything else (or even to keep up with that one task). Likewise, though there have been times when conquering forces have engaged in rape, it wasn't by royal fiat at the behest of a king looking to further dispirit the conquered.

One last nail in the coffin of the 'fornication under consent of the king' origin comes from the word 'fornication' itself. Though many reasonably conclude fornication is the old-time word for having sex, the term specifically excludes the physical union of man and wife. One can fornicate premaritally or extramaritally, but not intramaritally. In light of this, any claim wedded couples trying to entice the stork down their chimney were granted fornication permits crashes against the rock of the wrong word being used.

The second path has the word deriving from the short form of 'For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge.' Variously, adulterers, rapists, child molesters, and them wot engaged in premarital hanky panky were, as part of their punishment, sentenced to wear a placard announcing their wrongdoing. According to this origin, adulterers locked the stocks in village squares sported 'FUCK' around their necks as did rapists walking around in prison yards.

Here, the word that trips that proposed etymology is the least obvious one -- 'For.' Though displaying miscreants in stocks and public shaming were popular punishments in 18th and 19th century USA, any placards left either on the prisoner or on top of the stock would list the crime succinctly. Thus, someone who'd been caught filtching would have a placard that said 'Thief' or 'Stealing,' maybe even 'Stealing a Cow,' but never one that read 'For Stealing a Cow.' The 'For' would be superfluous. Okay, so the word didn't come to us from an acronym; where did it come from then?

According to the alt.usage.english FAQ:
[Fuck] is a very old word, recorded in English since the 15th century (few acronyms predate the 20th century), with cognates in other Germanic languages. The Random House Historical Dictionary of American Slang (Random House, 1994, ISBN 0-394-54427-7) cites Middle Dutch fokken = "to thrust, copulate with"; Norwegian dialect fukka = "to copulate"; and Swedish dialect focka = "to strike, push, copulate" and fock = "penis". Although German ficken may enter the picture somehow, it is problematic in having e-grade, or umlaut, where all the others have o-grade or zero-grade of the vowel.
AHD1, following Pokorny, derived "feud", "fey", "fickle", "foe", and "fuck" from an Indo-European root peig2 = "hostile"; but AHD2 and AHD3 have dropped this connection for "fuck" and give no pre-Germanic etymon for it. Eric Partridge, in the 7th edition of Dictionary of Slang and Unconventional English (Macmillan, 1970), said that "fuck" "almost certainly" comes from the Indo-European root *peuk- = "to prick" (which is the source of the English words "compunction", "expunge", "impugn", "poignant", "point", "pounce", "pugilist", "punctuate", "puncture", "pungent", and "pygmy"). Robert Claiborne, in The Roots of English: A Reader's Handbook of Word Origin (Times, 1989) agrees that this is "probably" the etymon. Problems with such theories include a distribution that suggests a North-Sea Germanic areal form rather than an inherited one; the murkiness of the phonetic relations; and the fact that no alleged cognate outside Germanic has sexual connotations.

In plain English, this means the term's origin is likely Germanic, even though no one can as yet point to the precise word it came down to us from out of all the possible candidates. Further, a few scholars hold differing pet theories outside of the Germanic origin one, theories which appear to have some holes in them. 'Fuck' is an old word, even if it's been a almost taboo term for most of its existence. It was around; it just wasn't used in common speech all that much, let alone written down and saved for posterity. Likely its meaning contributed to its precise origin becoming lost in the mists of time -- scholars of old would have been in no hurry to catalogue the growth of this word, and by the time it forced its way into even the most respectable of dictionaries, its parentage was long forgotten.

The earliest cite in The Oxford English Dictionary dates from 1503. John Ayto, in his Dictionary of Word Origins cites a proper name (probably a joke or parody name) of 'John le Fucker' from 1250, quite possibly proof the word we casually toss about today was being similarly tossed about 750 years ago. Spurious etymologies such as this one satisfy our urge for completion -- we want to believe such a naughty word has a salacious back story, something replete with stocks and adulterers, or fornication permits handed out by a king. How utterly prosaic to find out 'fuck' came to us the way most words sneak into the language -- it jumped the fence from another tongue, was spelled and pronounced a bit differently in its new home, and over time drifted into being a distinct word recognized by everyone. Takes all the fun out of it, it does.

Acronymic explanations catch our fancy due to the "hidden knowledge" factor. Most of us feel a bit of a glow when we think we're in possession of information others aren't privy to, and when a titillating or apt story is thrown in behind the trivia, these things just take off. "Tips" does not come from "To insure prompt service," yet that canard is widely believed. Likewise, "golf" didn't spring to life out of "Gentlemen only; ladies forbidden," and "posh" did not take its place in our vocabulary from a shortening of "Port out; starboard home." Barbara "port of last call" Mikkelson

Sightings: The rock group Van Halen put out an album entitled "For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge."


And now, how about "Fornication Under Consent of the King"?
http://www.snopes2.com/language/acronyms/fuck.htm (interesting reading)

Another one just came to me. Back in the day, judges would have before them a list of the day's criminals. Next to the names, would be the respective charges. Accused rapists would have next to their names, "For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge", and the abbreviation eventually become just F.U.C.K.

However, it was when people committed fornication that they would be displayed in public with these signs displayed above their heads or somewhere around them. I remember discussing this in English class when I was in high school. As far as I know, you didn't need the King's permission to be intimate with anyone, but, if you were caught doing the hanky-panky with someone you shouldn't have been doing it with, then you got a nice big sign saying: FOR UNLAWFUL CARNAL KNOWLEDGE

From American Hertitage Dictionary:
Word History: The obscenity fuck is a very old word, first recorded in English in the 15th century. Age has not dimmed its shock value, even though it is seen in print much more often now than in the past. Its first known occurrence, in a poem entitled "Flen flyys" written sometime before 1500, is in code, illustrating the unacceptability of the word even then. The poem, composed in a mixture of Latin and English, satirizes the Carmelite friars of Cambridge, England, with the title taken from the first words of the poem, "Flen, flyys, and freris," that is, "fleas, flies, and friars." The line that contains fuck reads "Non sunt in coeli, quia gxddbov xkxzt pg ifmk." The Latin words "Non sunt in coeli, quia" mean "they [the friars] are not in heaven, since." The code "gxddbov xxkxzt pg ifmk" is easily broken by simply writing the preceding letter in the alphabet. As we decode, we must watch for differences in the alphabet and in spelling between then and now. For g write f; for x, v (used for u and v); d, c; b, a; o, n; v, t; xx, vv (which equals w); k, i; x, v; z, y; t, s; p, o; g, f; i, h; f, e; m, l; and for k, i. This yields "fvccant [a fake Latin form] vvivys of heli." The whole thus reads in translation: "They are not in heaven because they fuck wives of Ely [a town near Cambridge]."

Q. What is the origin of the word fuck?
A. It is remotely derived from the Latin futuere and Old German ficken/fucken. Originally, this was a quite acceptable word! It was recorded in a dictionary in 1598 (John Florio's A World of Words). It is remotely derived from the Latin futuere and Old German ficken/fucken meaning 'to strike or penetrate', which had the slang meaning 'to copulate'. Eric Partridge, a famous etymologist, said that the German word was related to the Latin words for pugilist, puncture, and prick. The word, which entered English in the late 15th century, became more rare in print in the 18th century when it became a vulgar term. It was even banned from the Oxford English Dictionary. In 1960, Grove Press (in the US) won a court case permitting it to print the word legally for the first time in centuries -- in D.H. Lawrence's Lady Chatterley's Lover (written in 1928). One folk etymology, which is incorrect, is that it derives from "[booked] for unlawful carnal knowledge."
http://dictionary.com/cgi-bin/search?config=drdict&words=fuck

Under the common law rape was defined as “unlawful carnal knowledge of a woman forcibly and against her will.” This archaic language was interpreted in a very narrow manner. The term "unlawful" was interpreted to mean that the act was not authorized by law, which was held to preclude applying the law to a husband who had forced sexual intercourse with his wife. Carnal knowledge was interpreted to require penetration of the penis into the vagina for an act to be considered rape. Finally, rape under the common law only applied to women.
http://www.eus.wsu.edu/EDP/courses/guides/crmj320/l7.htm

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Learn something new everyday... LeslieLook.gif

Posted by: sexkitten Dec 21 2004, 11:08 AM
Reach, if you are still looking for the age of consent by state (and by country) you can find it at http://www.ageofconsent.com/ageofconsent.htm

//goes back to reading article//

Posted by: Reach Dec 21 2004, 12:11 PM
Thanks, Kitty.

I figured you and Lok would enjoy this little slice of history here, but I also imagined that between the two of you, you'd be the first one attracted to any thread with an F in it. ;-)

Posted by: Lokmer Dec 21 2004, 12:15 PM
QUOTE (Reach @ Dec 21 2004, 12:11 PM)
Thanks, Kitty.

I figured you and Lok would enjoy this little slice of history here, but I also imagined that between the two of you, you'd be the first one attracted to any thread with an F in it. ;-)

Bad Kitty!

Bad Reach!

:spank: :spank:

-Lokmer


OBTW, excellent article, Reach! Thank you LeslieLook.gif

Posted by: sexkitten Dec 21 2004, 12:19 PM
QUOTE (Reach @ Dec 21 2004, 12:11 PM)
Thanks, Kitty.

I figured you and Lok would enjoy this little slice of history here, but I also imagined that between the two of you, you'd be the first one attracted to any thread with an F in it. ;-)

I plead entrapment. KatieHmm.gif

Posted by: Lokmer Dec 21 2004, 12:23 PM
QUOTE (sexkitten @ Dec 21 2004, 12:19 PM)
QUOTE (Reach @ Dec 21 2004, 12:11 PM)
Thanks, Kitty.

I figured you and Lok would enjoy this little slice of history here, but I also imagined that between the two of you, you'd be the first one attracted to any thread with an F in it. ;-)

I plead entrapment. KatieHmm.gif

But nobody has hancuffed or flogged you yet!
-Lokmer

Posted by: sexkitten Dec 21 2004, 12:25 PM
QUOTE (Lokmer @ Dec 21 2004, 12:23 PM)
QUOTE (sexkitten @ Dec 21 2004, 12:19 PM)
QUOTE (Reach @ Dec 21 2004, 12:11 PM)
Thanks, Kitty.

I figured you and Lok would enjoy this little slice of history here, but I also imagined that between the two of you, you'd be the first one attracted to any thread with an F in it. ;-)

I plead entrapment. KatieHmm.gif

But nobody has hancuffed or flogged you yet!
-Lokmer

I know.

And I feel so neglected and unloved. //sobs//

But that *wasn't* what I was talking about. Pbbbttt!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Alexy_Lady Dec 21 2004, 04:49 PM
^_^ Awww... we can find someone to tie you down!

Anyway, this was interesting. I'd heard both versions, and the German idea, but wasn't sure where it was really from.

Posted by: Diogenes Dec 21 2004, 08:54 PM
QUOTE
F.U.C.K. is an Acronym?


How the f.u.c.k. should I know?


Wow, after 20 years as a fundie and three months of freedom, I feel sort of strangely empowered by using the F word!

BTW, interesting article, Reach.

Posted by: nivek Dec 21 2004, 11:17 PM
Awwwwww, just f u c k it...


Whoo hOOOOoOOO!


n

Posted by: Reach Dec 24 2004, 02:16 PM

The only difference between graffiti and philosophy is the word "fuck."

~Author Unknown

Posted by: Ro-bear Dec 24 2004, 05:43 PM
I may have a minority opinion here, but I think the word has its roots in onomatopoeia. That is the word itself sounds like that which it represents, like "growl" or "sizzle" or "splash". The sound of the word calls to mind that of a mule withdrawing its hoof from a mud puddle. Not that any of you sound like that when you do it.

-Rob

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