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Posted by: bdp Mar 2 2005, 05:56 PM
Only someone who never lost could possibly have written that.

big dumb puffin missing his raven...*sigh*

bdp

Posted by: fortunehooks Mar 2 2005, 07:11 PM
bdp, i hear you.

Posted by: Lartsa Cleargleam Mar 2 2005, 07:50 PM
I was thinking the exact same thing the other day.

And I've never really 'lost.' I can imagine how it would feel though.

I think the context may have always been more in the sense of loving a wife/husband an entire life and then when they die, you always have that memory.

Or something. I dunno.

As far as anything is concerned, loss sucks.

Posted by: FlybyStardancer Mar 2 2005, 09:49 PM
Yeah, the only loss I've ever had to deal with was my grandpa, and even then I was young enough that it didn't hurt as much as it should have... (I had been close to him.) I don't know how to explain what I was feeling at the time...

And my personal take on that phrase is that even though you lose someone, it's better to have loved them because that way you were actually LIVING, as oppposed to someone who has never loved, and probably never felt truly alive.

Again, that's just my take on the phrase.

Posted by: Biggles7268 Mar 3 2005, 04:54 AM
/me agrees with flyby

Posted by: Reach Mar 3 2005, 05:33 AM
Bdp, I understand loss but I think love is worth the risk.

I'd rather be burnt by the flame than never have felt and experienced the heat of the fire.

Reach

Posted by: Merlinfmct87 Mar 3 2005, 12:27 PM
QUOTE (Reach @ Mar 3 2005, 01:33 PM)
Bdp, I understand loss but I think love is worth the risk.

I'd rather be burnt by the flame than never have felt and experienced the heat of the fire.

Reach

What she said.

Merlin

Posted by: SilentLoner Mar 3 2005, 12:32 PM
QUOTE (Merlinfmct87 @ Mar 3 2005, 03:27 PM)
QUOTE (Reach @ Mar 3 2005, 01:33 PM)
Bdp, I understand loss but I think love is worth the risk.

I'd rather be burnt by the flame than never have felt and experienced the heat of the fire.

Reach

What she said.

Merlin

I agree

Posted by: non conformist Mar 3 2005, 12:35 PM
Losing only sucks cause love is soooo amazing!

I would never resist or say no to love, simply because I'm afraid of being hurt. The pain is totally worth it. What an experience love is! wub.gif cloud9_99.gif

Posted by: Lokmer Mar 3 2005, 03:30 PM
All love ends in loss. Whether that loss is in the end of the relationship through breakup, or through death, the pain then is part of the joy. That's the whole deal. There is no such thing as love without loss.

All things in life have a price tag. With love, the price tag is love itself - the more meaningful it is, the larger the void when it is gone.

That's all there is to it. Love has side benefits, of course - it can help you grow, it can change your consciousness. A wise person holds on to the changes and growth even when the impetus for them (the loved person or idea or religion or whatever) is gone.

All life is sacrifice and tradeoff - some voluntary, some involutary. Joy and pain are inextricably intertwined.

For myself, the pain is a price I pay gladly. It's the only way I can find to truly live.

-Lokmer

Posted by: bdp Mar 3 2005, 03:31 PM
Well you're all wrong. That's all.

some addicts get as addicted to the thrill of the needle going into their vein as to the actual drug itself. I don't want to have to get burned to experience the high of being loved. If I have to lose again, and get burned again, then I'll never love again. I gave myself away once, I won't do it any more. Not for anyone.


Posted by: Mo Biggsley Mar 3 2005, 05:01 PM
I'd rather have never loved than to have fallen out of love. It was amazing while it was good, though. Too bad the bad times lasted months while the good times only lasted a week.

Posted by: bdp Mar 3 2005, 08:37 PM
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All life is sacrifice


'Sacrifice' is a pretty fucked-up concept too.

bdp

Posted by: Lanakila Mar 4 2005, 08:31 AM
QUOTE (Mo Biggsley @ Mar 3 2005, 05:01 PM)
I'd rather have never loved than to have fallen out of love. It was amazing while it was good, though. Too bad the bad times lasted months while the good times only lasted a week.

It's not that the love was bad. Its that it was with the wrong person for you. (not sure if she is right for anyone, at least not now) Breakups hurt like hell, and falling out of love because your eyes were opened (love is blind and all that) to the person being loved sucks ass. But, if the lesson is learned to love yourself, and be more careful who you give your heart to next time, then its still a good thing. Recovering financially may take longer than getting over the emotional pain of being used, and hurt, but you will recover and be a better person for it. I believe better things are in store for you in the future.

Posted by: Lanakila Mar 4 2005, 08:38 AM
QUOTE (bdp @ Mar 3 2005, 08:37 PM)
QUOTE
All life is sacrifice


'Sacrifice' is a pretty fucked-up concept too.

bdp

So says you, but without explanation of what exactly you are talking about.

Sacrificing your life for some God is not so much a fucked up concept but a waste of time, but we all have to give a little, and take a little, just to survive in this world. Sacrificing selfish desires so that you can share things with other people is well worth the sacrifice IMO. Keeping to yourself out of fear of being hurt again helps no one, including yourself (speaking from experience).

Getting to know yourself and why you have the needs and desires you have, and dealing with those that can't be met in an adult relationship (or shouldn't) will only benefit yourself and others if/when you do have adult relationships (whether love or friendship relationships).

Posted by: bdp Mar 4 2005, 04:05 PM
What's to explain?

bdp

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